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Re:Defecting from North Korea Is Now Far Harder by npteljes on Sunday July 09, 2023 @12:30PM (#36655909)
As with any news, you take it with a pinch of salt. Nothing new here.

Are there particular things in this report which you don't agree with, or consider suspicious, or know that it's an outright lie?

Re:Defecting from North Korea Is Now Far Harder by fndex on Sunday July 09, 2023 @01:32PM (#36656626)
This article could have come straight from a fiction book. There is no evidence for anything that is being presented. It might be true, it might not be.

I'm not arguing they are lying or not, I'm just saying that we shouldn't blindly believe it.

But watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkUMZS-ZegM made me a little bit skeptical about those defector stories. It's a very good watch, and I guess it doesn't hurt to hear a different perspective.

Re:Defecting from North Korea Is Now Far Harder by npteljes on Sunday July 09, 2023 @02:23PM (#36657337)
I think understand where you're coming from - people can tell whatever they want, and the media definitely loves to run stories like this. These stories are both popular and the diplomatic risk is also low. And we also have the accounts of Yeonmi Park.

On the other hand, there's no reason to doubt the story too much. NyT's stories are generally highly factual, even though their primary bias is left-center. And we know that NK is a hellhole, not just from defectors, as the "Loyal Citizens of Pyongyang in Seoul" video states, but from a myriad of other, independent sources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeonmi_Park#Veracity_of_claims

Re:Defecting from North Korea Is Now Far Harder by enterprise_cog on Sunday July 09, 2023 @04:24PM (#36658503)
The NYT regularly lies for US intelligence agencies. Or just publishes garbage from them as truth without verifying. There is every reason to doubt this story.
Re:Defecting from North Korea Is Now Far Harder by mitt_romney_12 on Sunday July 09, 2023 @03:53PM (#36658212)
News about North Korea should be taken with a very large grain of slat given the medias history of reporting fake news about them [1][2][3][4] (note: I am definitely not pro-North Korea and this story is obviously very bad, but I think people should be a little more skeptical about North Korea news)

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jun/01/true-or-false-...

[2] https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-25621324

[3] https://www.dw.com/en/north-korea-fake-news-on-both-sides-is...

[4] https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/fake-news-north-k...

Re:Defecting from North Korea Is Now Far Harder by fndex on Sunday July 09, 2023 @03:59PM (#36658283)
How dare you presenting facts that the media has lied multiple times about North Korea in the past? Be prepared to be downvoted and flagged.