Biden says war with Russia must end before NATO can consider Ukraine membership

Re:Biden says war with Russia must end before NATO can consi... by 71a54xd on Sunday July 09, 2023 @12:03PM (#36655645)

Ukraine joining NATO is a sure guarantee of WWIII. Putin is a clown, yes - but allowing Ukraine to join NATO would only reinforce the fact that anything the US says in regards to foreign policy in Eastern Europe cannot be taken seriously and should not be trusted.

Why are people cheering for war?

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Re:Biden says war with Russia must end before NATO can consi... by NX9mqsSv8 on Sunday July 09, 2023 @12:47PM (#36656075)

Are we not already in WWIII? What is the leading cause of death among military service age-eligible men in the US? Would war increase or decrease that death toll? There is a rational case for war, but not in the Ukraine.

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Re:Biden says war with Russia must end before NATO can consi... by 71a54xd on Sunday July 09, 2023 @12:50PM (#36656101)

I fear that political powers (both parties) are already laying the groundwork to make the Ukraine war the next Iraq. If this actually comes to fruition I can't say I still see much benefit to living in the US.

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Re:Biden says war with Russia must end before NATO can consi... by NX9mqsSv8 on Sunday July 09, 2023 @12:55PM (#36656159)

Only path to voting our way out of this is with a populist like Trump or Kennedy. Neither wants us in that war.

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Re:Biden says war with Russia must end before NATO can consi... by kmos17 on Sunday July 09, 2023 @02:27PM (#36657367)

That is a pipe dream, do you really believe trump’s obsession with military might was just going to end at having parades with tanks and fighter jets? Kennedy so far looks like yet another extremely cynical manipulator.

Populists politicians love war because they always over promise and under deliver, and war is the ultimate distractor and rallying cry.

No one wanted this war other than Putin.

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Re:Biden says war with Russia must end before NATO can consi... by NX9mqsSv8 on Monday July 10, 2023 @07:28AM (#36664863)

The one president in decades to keep us out of war loves war. Your logic is infallible.

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Re:Biden says war with Russia must end before NATO can consi... by _kbh_ on Monday July 10, 2023 @06:53AM (#36664542)

> Why are people cheering for war?

People are cheering for stability once Ukraine is in NATO, Russia will no longer be able to try and subjugate them again and overall region stability will increase.

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