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Re:Seven people have acquired malaria in the US. They’re the... by ori_prior on Friday July 07, 2023 @09:22AM (#36631347)
Re:Seven people have acquired malaria in the US. They’re the... by bbarnett on Friday July 07, 2023 @09:28AM (#36631437)
DDT is indeed a problem, but its first worries are now not entirely true.

In the 90s it was discovered that fruitflies now can metabolize DDT, so it can be broken down (and still used in larger concentrations to kill them)

Not advocating DDT use, just a FYI. It ws thought to "never be broken down"

Re:Seven people have acquired malaria in the US. They’re the... by taneq on Friday July 07, 2023 @09:31AM (#36631482)
No need to be that dramatic about it, just make sure you've had a safe amount of gin and tonic!
Re:Seven people have acquired malaria in the US. They’re the... by eggy on Friday July 07, 2023 @10:10AM (#36632035)
Sober, but I love tonic water that was called quinine tonic water when I was younger, but nowadays tonic water usually has little if any quinine, and citrus and high fructose corn syrup and/or sugar.
Re:Seven people have acquired malaria in the US. They’re the... by nulbyte on Friday July 07, 2023 @10:24AM (#36632225)
Where do you find tonic water that doesn't have quinine in it?
Re:Seven people have acquired malaria in the US. They’re the... by rufus_foreman on Friday July 07, 2023 @10:36AM (#36632379)
>> nowadays tonic water usually has little if any quinine

In the US, The FDA limits how much can be added, https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/what-is-quinine-in-to....

"Per FDA ruling, tonic water can contain only 83 milligrams of quinine per liter. The typical medicinal dosage of quinine is around 500 milligrams, and in the case of malaria, it is taken multiple times a day"

Re:Seven people have acquired malaria in the US. They’re the... by eggy on Sunday July 09, 2023 @11:57AM (#36655584)
Schweppes has 67.9 mg/L of quinine.

I lived in SE Asia for over 7 years with close to 2 years of living in remote areas with dengue and malaria. I drank my Schweppes tonic water because I am sober and enjoy the bitterness, and it gave me some peace of mind that I was keeping quinine in my system at any level.

Having cobra anti-venom was a lot more important where the nearest trauma center could be 12 hours away by vehicle due to winding, mountainous, and difficult roads before hitting a real paved road.

Re:Seven people have acquired malaria in the US. They’re the... by SapporoChris on Friday July 07, 2023 @09:45AM (#36631668)
When I was growing up my father had a couple of cans of insect repellent that contained DDT. He kept them in the freezer so they'd last longer. He honestly thought it was the good stuff and opposed the ban. I remember seeing them in 1975, they were Olive Drab Green cans, so probably Army Surplus.
Re:Seven people have acquired malaria in the US. They’re the... by Clubber on Friday July 07, 2023 @09:52AM (#36631769)
It absolutely was the good stuff. Unfortunately it weakened the eggs of large birds resulting in near extinction, including the bald eagle.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/145496/#:~:text=Chronic%20in....

Re:Seven people have acquired malaria in the US. They’re the... by josephcsible on Friday July 07, 2023 @10:12AM (#36632076)
I wonder how many people who died of malaria would still be alive today had DDT never been banned.
Re:Seven people have acquired malaria in the US. They’re the... by nukeman on Friday July 07, 2023 @10:49AM (#36632582)
Tough to say. Not all countries have total bans on DDT, and even the Stockholm Convention exempted vector control from the ban on certain organochlorine compounds. In any case, DDT-resistant mosquitoes were already starting to occur in the 1960s due to the unrestricted spraying. Spraying has mostly continued as indoor residual spraying, which still seems to be quite effective.
Re:Seven people have acquired malaria in the US. They’re the... by WeylandYutani on Friday July 07, 2023 @03:52PM (#36637427)
In the West nobody dies from malaria because we have a healthcare system. So DDT is unnecessary.

Africa is another matter entirely. For centuries no white man made it further than the beach until an effective medicine was invented.