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Re:June’s record-smashing temperatures – in data by mulmen on Thursday July 06, 2023 @10:44PM (#36626416)
Do you have a rabbit hole entry point for the downfall of the Mayan civilization, specifically the climate factors? It's a civilization and series of events I know little about but is fascinating.
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Re:June’s record-smashing temperatures – in data by throwaway72762 on Thursday July 06, 2023 @10:55PM (#36626508)
One summary/review article among many:

https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/10.1146/annurev-earth-0601...

Basically political and economic dysfunction combined with drought and soil degradation over a couple centuries.

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Re:June’s record-smashing temperatures – in data by npunt on Thursday July 06, 2023 @10:48PM (#36626456)
Fall of Civilizations podcast is good

https://fallofcivilizationspodcast.com

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Re:June’s record-smashing temperatures – in data by photonerd on Thursday July 06, 2023 @10:50PM (#36626470)
The Maya civilization was mostly destroyed by the Spanish conquest. That’s the level of existential threat climate poses to use.
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Re:June’s record-smashing temperatures – in data by throwaway72762 on Thursday July 06, 2023 @11:32PM (#36626751)
Spanish conquest was centuries after the collapse of lowland Mayan civilization.
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Re:June’s record-smashing temperatures – in data by photonerd on Friday July 07, 2023 @12:57AM (#36627342)
The end of the Classic period? Sure. The 200 year drought did not help by reducing agricultural capacity and the political upheaval tanked any ability to adapt of much of the cities.

But it was the resulting warfare from all that that really fucked then up.

But post-classical Mayan civilization was still healthy and large in scale. Just not the same kind of thing.

It would be a mistake to say their civilization ended then. It simply changed.

The Spanish killed it though. Killed it so systematically it became myth for centuries

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Re:June’s record-smashing temperatures – in data by mulmen on Thursday July 06, 2023 @10:56PM (#36626512)
Hm, I don't see the similarity then. The Spanish were deliberate and malicious. Climate change is a consequence of our own actions, although the accounting needs work.
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Re:June’s record-smashing temperatures – in data by photonerd on Friday July 07, 2023 @12:51AM (#36627300)
Not a direct comparison, more a comparable level of existential threat.
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Re:June’s record-smashing temperatures – in data by cheshire137 on Thursday July 06, 2023 @11:54PM (#36626888)
I love the Fall of Civilizations podcast. Here's their episode on the Mayans: https://youtu.be/SnFaRXeep5Y
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