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Re:Toyota Is Right: We Need More Hybrid Cars and Fewer EVs. ... by JohnFen on Thursday July 06, 2023 @04:28PM (#36622428)
> People should have the options to not depend on anyone or anything for transportation.

They do: walking. Even ebikes keeps you dependent on electricity. Bicycles keep you dependent on consumables for maintenance (oil, etc.) and spare parts suppliers.

I bicycle as my primary transportation, and I have to admit that I've been increasingly irritated by ebikes. They drive on the bike paths (even though that's not legal here), and when doing so they drive far too fast and don't even try to warn others using the path that they're passing.

I've seen a half dozen cases of ebikes slamming into pedestrians and bicyclists in the last few months.

I think the people advocating ebikes need to start educating people driving them about how to do so without endangering people, or this is going to turn into yet another flash point between groups who should be on the same side.

Re:Toyota Is Right: We Need More Hybrid Cars and Fewer EVs. ... by germinalphrase on Thursday July 06, 2023 @05:02PM (#36622973)
Speed limits exist, but people do not fear enforcement because there is little enforcement infrastructure.
Re:Toyota Is Right: We Need More Hybrid Cars and Fewer EVs. ... by JohnFen on Thursday July 06, 2023 @05:21PM (#36623242)
(For clarity: I'm talking about off-street bike paths here)

The problematic ebikes are already breaking the law by driving on bike paths where motorized vehicles are prohibited. All they'd really have to do to both be legal and to avoid endangering and angering other users of the path is to not use the motor while on them.

Since they don't, I don't think they'd care anything about speed limits, either.