Re:Americans Have Quit Quitting Their Jobs
by bluedino on Thursday July 06, 2023 @12:21PM
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> For white collar jobs, maybe (despite evidence of nearshoring/reshoring). Physical jobs?
Physical jobs get outsourced. Look at what an Amazon driver makes compared to a UPS driver. Look at all the jobs the big three auto manufacturers have shipped to Mexico over the last 40 years.
Re:Americans Have Quit Quitting Their Jobs
by toomuchtodo on Thursday July 06, 2023 @12:25PM
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Your first example is Amazon using a corporate structure maneuver to evade employee classification. That is not outsourcing, that is attempting to evade the law. Your second example, while accurate (and a contributor to the hallowing out of the middle class), is trending back to the US due to Inflation Reduction Act subsidies [1] (battery factories highlighted as they are the major component of EVs).
[1] https://electrek.co/2023/05/31/north-america-battery-factori...
Anyway, support of unions has never been higher in the US (currently 68%) [1] [2]. I get that a cohort of HN has some sort of hyper-capitalistic Stockholm syndrome (I get why of course, YC and all, "I'm just a temporarily embarrassed tech millionaire/billionaire") bent and frowns on the idea in an Ayn Rand-ian way, but HN is a bubble vs the rest of the country. If you are here, odds are you are privileged in some capacity. Most people are not. People are tired of getting ground by the machine, and are realizing there are options to get some purchase on the economic rockface [3] [4].
[1] https://news.gallup.com/poll/398303/approval-labor-unions-hi...
[2] https://www.npr.org/2022/08/31/1120111276/labor-union-suppor...
[3] https://www.epi.org/publication/unionization-2022/
[4] https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/07/why-is-there-a-union-boom.ht...