Re:France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phon...
by kemayo on Thursday July 06, 2023 @10:30AM
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I mean, the French Revolution was very-shortly-followed by the Terror, so we can hardly present this as a simple slow decline from a golden age.
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Re:France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phon...
by ericd on Thursday July 06, 2023 @10:34AM
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And very shortly thereafter, an emperor :-)
Re:France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phon...
by hinata08 on Thursday July 06, 2023 @10:58AM
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the emperor did an empire on behalf of the republic, and to fight off the british to save the republic over monarchy
these times were ironic and still up to your own understanding, because nobody got what really happened then
Re:France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phon...
by charles_f on Thursday July 06, 2023 @11:36AM
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The terror was fully part of the revolution, and was notably when the vote for France to proclame itself a Republic happened. It was heavily influenced by the fear of retribution for whom may vote against. France would still be a monarchy if not for it.
FWIW, France became an empire, then was restored as a monarchy, then back an empire and monarchy before it became a republic durably. Revolution was not a series of peasants and commoner ridding themselves of their despots, it was much more dirtier, political and complex than that.
Re:France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phon...
by r00fus on Thursday July 06, 2023 @02:21PM
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This entirely. The truth is messy and doesn’t make for an easy story.
Re:France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phon...
by charles_f on Thursday July 06, 2023 @09:05PM
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Yeah, it's pretty incredible how many people look at these kind of events as point in times, e.g lots of French people answer "Bastille day" if you ask when the revolution happened, or some Americans answer "D-day" for when Europe was liberated.
Re:France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phon...
by dragonwriter on Thursday July 06, 2023 @05:28PM
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> FWIW, France became an empire, then was restored as a monarchy, then back an empire and monarchy before it became a republic durably.
You left out “republic again” between “restored as a monarchy” and ”back an empire” (and actually, even that leaves out the July Revolution which was a change between two different monarchies, and not just different monarchs, in 1830.)
Re:France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phon...
by AreYouElite on Thursday July 06, 2023 @05:15PM
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what you call red terror was merely a preludium to the much more servere and large scale 'white terror' the royalists and their supporters comitted much more horrifying and large scale terror on a massive scale. The right-wing terror that followed the revolution is somehow never mentioned. I guess people still buy into the scarlet pimpernel bs.