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Re:Who cares about the Ivy League? by randomdata on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @12:41PM (#36602969)
Gates, Zuckerberg, and Jobs all recognized that the value proposition was not there / no longer there and moved on. They did not stick around to receive the graduate/dunce cap just to sooth their sunk cost fallacy pangs.

Thiel suggests that the "colleges that matter" offer more, e.g. research labs, that bring more to the table. That may justify going further in some cases. Certainly researchers at Harvard have done a lot of ground breaking things. Can Reed College say the same?

Thiel's perspective may very well be skewed, but I am not sure these examples show that. More interesting would be to look at what game changing things the graduates of Reed College have done, not those who ran away.

Re:Who cares about the Ivy League? by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:32PM (#36604941)
OK on Steve Jobs, but Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg were at Harvard. And they decided the value still wasn't there - even with Harvard's "ground breaking things" and "college that matters".
Re:Who cares about the Ivy League? by randomdata on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @03:41PM (#36606008)
The idea isn't that Harvard magically gives you value just by showing up, but that there is opportunity to extract value there. An early investment in Harvard may lead you to joining the ranks as a researcher, for example. Gates and Zuckerberg realized that wasn't their future, so they aborted and got on the right track for themselves. But Thiel suggests that there is still a future for those who wish to strive to join a Harvard "Old Boys Club".

In contrast, he suggests that a Reed College has no such opportunity. Let's say Jobs did graduate. Then what? Maybe he'd become a professor there? What can one really get out of Reed College? More likely he'd just end up back in industry, at which point it was a waste of resources to invest in academia; a waste which Thiel would consider to be a dunce move.

Re:Who cares about the Ivy League? by filoleg on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @04:05PM (#36606291)
> Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg were at Harvard. And they decided the value still wasn't there.

No, they realized that they had a limited time-window opportunity on their hands that has a potential for a lot more value than the degree, as long as they executed on that opportunity well and had a bit of luck.

Neither Gates nor Zuck just dropped out with nothing going on for them, and only then started their respective companies. IIRC Zuck quit because he was busy running Facebook during its explosive growth phase, and he had to make a choice between allocating his time to running FB and school.

Most people who decide to drop out don't have an explosively-growing business on their hands that they have a limited time-window to execute on. And while this is a pure guess, but I don't think Zuck would drop out just because, without something like FB fighting for his time and attention.