Re:PhD Simulator
by jvvw on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @11:40AM
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Didn't realise at the time but you have made me appreciate that that was one good thing about the British system - I was 24 when I submitted my PhD which is fairly typical so still time before such decisions (it was another 11 years before I discovered the challenges of combining a career with motherhood!)
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Re:PhD Simulator
by womenintech333 on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @12:22PM
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Reducing a PhD program to 4 years can help but in many fields this is still a problem. For many fields and form of absence of leave can be the end of your academic career. If I recall correctly the average PhD graduate is still 26-27 years old. Which doesn't help much too much even though the average US grad is 31. For many field though this would help a lot. In tech and stem not so much. I remember some of the female faculty I knew telling me exactly how and why so many women end up filtered out. Simply because they wanted to have a child and by the time they came back their research was outdated and their works published by others. They themselves never having children. It's why many women often leave academia for industry jobs.
I personally believe how we conduct research and academia is outdated and does not allow for the proper inclusion of women. And does not allow men to be proper fathers. Sorry for the long talk.
Edit: Got the average age for PhDs in UK wrong it's mid 30s. Even if they started right at the age of 22 it's a wall they will face almost immediately.
Re:PhD Simulator
by fractallyte on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:01PM
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How should the system be changed to accommodate women? (And men/fathers?)
In my opinion, a first step is to equalize maternity and paternity leave. It should be equally disrupting for men to have children as for women. I like the scandivian implementation of this model, where partners get 2 years of leave per child which they are free to divide among themselves, with a minimum of a few (?) months for either.
Re:PhD Simulator
by agensaequivocum on Friday July 07, 2023 @12:12PM
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That's a ridiculous amount of leave. A man does not need much time outside abnormal circumstances for paternity leave. I would almost never work, as my wife and I have a baby every year or two.
> I was 24 when I submitted my PhD which is fairly typical
Good for you - that's very fast. According to [1] the median age for starting a PhD in the UK is 24 to 25 for full-time students. So you actually graduated around when the typical student starts.
[1] https://www.hepi.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/PhD-Life_T...