News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:ZFS 2.2.0 (RC): Block Cloning merged by Filligree on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @05:15PM (#36592580)
I just don't understand why they're so anti-ZFS. I want my data to survive, please...
Re:ZFS 2.2.0 (RC): Block Cloning merged by rincebrain on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @05:25PM (#36592693)
My impression is that some of the Linux kernel devs are anti-anything that's not GPL-compatible, of any sort, regardless of the particulars.

Linus himself also made remarks about ZFS at one point that were pretty...hostile. [1] [2]

> The fact is, the whole point of the GPL is that you're being "paid" in terms of tit-for-tat: we give source code to you for free, but we want source code improvements back. If you don't do that but instead say "I think this is _legal_, but I'm not going to help you" you certainly don't get any help from us.

> So things that are outside the kernel tree simply do not matter to us. They get absolutely zero attention. We simply don't care. It's that simple.

> And things that don't do that "give back" have no business talking about us being assholes when we don't care about them.

> See?

Note that there's at least one unfixed Linux kernel bug that was found by OpenZFS users, reproducible without using OpenZFS in any way, reported with a patch, and ignored. [3]

So "not giving back" is a dubious claim.

[1] - https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/01/linus-torvalds-zfs-s...

[2] - https://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=189711&curpost...

[3] - https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212295

[dead]
Re:ZFS 2.2.0 (RC): Block Cloning merged by olgeni on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @04:39AM (#36597537)
Was ifconfig made to be hostile too? :D

(/s)

Re:ZFS 2.2.0 (RC): Block Cloning merged by p_l on Monday July 10, 2023 @04:18AM (#36663459)
That's frankly speaking untrue - we have one off-hand comment by one person from Sun for this, and multiple claims opposite.

Also, ZFS goes with the same licensing interpretation as Linus used with AFS.