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Re:Twitter Is DDOSing Itself by nashashmi on Saturday July 01, 2023 @10:39PM (#36557649)
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Re:Twitter Is DDOSing Itself by lolinder on Saturday July 01, 2023 @11:20PM (#36557918)
This doesn't surprise me a bit. It's very much Musk's MO: he applied "move fast and break things" to Tesla and SpaceX [0], why would he drop it now that he's actually running the kind of software company the phrase was coined for?

[0] Was Starship’s Stage Zero a Bad Pad? https://practical.engineering/blog/2023/6/16/w47wdfg7h5uojks...

> Unlike NASA that spends years in planning and engineering, SpaceX uses rapid development cycles and full-scale tests to work toward their eventual goals. They push their hardware to the limit to learn as much as possible, and we get to follow along. They’re betting it will pay off to develop fast instead of carefully. But this wasn’t just a test of the hardware. It was also a test of federal regulations and the good graces of the people who live, work, play, and care about the Boca Chica area. And, SpaceX definitely pushed those limits as well with their first orbital test. It’s still yet to be seen what they’ll learn from that.

Re:Twitter Is DDOSing Itself by starbugs on Sunday July 02, 2023 @02:19AM (#36558784)
Applying the simplest shortest fix can sometimes be a good method to synchronize the state of the code with management.

Instead of engineering trying to buffer and fix weird management decisions, this just exposes them.

Re:Twitter Is DDOSing Itself by bilekas on Sunday July 02, 2023 @04:57AM (#36559665)
From experience management really don't care about the state of the code or infrastructure. All they want to know is the soonest something can be done.

Elon strikes me as worse because he likes to think he understands what his engineers know.

Re:Twitter Is DDOSing Itself by bborud on Sunday July 02, 2023 @08:08AM (#36560702)
> Elon strikes me as worse because he likes to think he understands > what his engineers know.

Early on in my career I had a name for this. I called it "gamle helter" in Norwegian which roughly translates to "old heroes". An "old hero" is someone who used to be competent in a field, has stopped being competent, doesn't recognize this themselves and is now a nuisance to anyone who actually knows what they are doing, but can't pull rank. One way to become an old hero is typically to end up in management and not practice whatever discipline you think you understand.

To be fair, I highly doubt that Musk was ever a competent software engineer, much less a good engineering manager. He is a PR person. He sells an image that he is a technology person.

Re:Twitter Is DDOSing Itself by berniedurfee on Sunday July 02, 2023 @10:10AM (#36561638)
Elon is the imposter.
Re:Twitter Is DDOSing Itself by bilekas on Sunday July 02, 2023 @10:43AM (#36561909)
I'm not seeing the imposter side of things personally but maybe he does come across like the old addage : dumb people think they know everything, smart people know they know nothing. Or something to that effect.
Re:Twitter Is DDOSing Itself by y0ink on Sunday July 02, 2023 @11:36AM (#36562445)
It's called the Dunning-Kruger effect, paraphrased by Bertrand Russell as "The stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Re:Twitter Is DDOSing Itself by ackfoobar on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @01:22AM (#36595796)
Almost everyone is under (the folk version of) the Dunning-Kruger effect about the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Since you linked Wikipedia, I'll quote it.

> Nevertheless, low performers' self-assessment is lower than that of high performers.

> Among laypeople, the Dunning–Kruger effect is often misunderstood as the claim that people with low intelligence are more confident in their knowledge and skills than people with high intelligence.

Re:Twitter Is DDOSing Itself by bigwavedave on Sunday July 02, 2023 @10:55AM (#36562007)
I think the parent comment was jokingly making a reference to "Among Us", a game that spawned millions of memes about "the imposter". But my assumption could be wrong.
Re:Twitter Is DDOSing Itself by starbugs on Sunday July 02, 2023 @02:51PM (#36564441)
Didn’t wanna imply that management care for the state of the code with my original comment. That would be a bit delusional. Sorry if that caused confusion.

What I wanted to say is that if the state of the code is bad, it might make them care a bit more when their own state gets synchronized with that. Not necessarily about the code, but surely about the revenue and the looks.

Now, management being what it is, they of course will try to find a scapegoat. But that’s just part of the game and may be better than burning yourself out by trying to fix their nonsense.

Re:Twitter Is DDOSing Itself by bart_spoon on Monday July 03, 2023 @06:06PM (#36579434)
Often the simplest shortest fix is the result of management’s directives. “We need this thing done yesterday” leads to the shortest fix, which compounds over time. Then the same managers wonder why it’s so hard to make changes or implement things in the future, without understanding their insistence on taking the path of least resistance is the direct cause.