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Re:Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new cate... by jokoon on Saturday July 01, 2023 @06:15PM (#36555884)
Whatever you do please don't advocate to replace ssri with psychedelics. Listen to a doctor or psychiatrist, just like it was for vaccines.

And avoid personal anecdote, they have little value compared to what a doctor says.

Thanks in advance.

Re:Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new cate... by bigyikes on Saturday July 01, 2023 @06:20PM (#36555937)
I agree with your main point, but the bit about anecdotes is tricky. We live in a society where research and information on these substances has been suppressed. As a result, anecdotes, to a large degree, are all we have.

This is gradually changing as we see new studies emerging with the relaxation of regulation. However, the picture the data paint is still quite limited compared to the wealth of personal experiences that have been recorded over the decades.

Re:Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new cate... by jasonhansel on Saturday July 01, 2023 @07:02PM (#36556225)
The fact that you only have anecdotes doesn't make those anecdotes more reliable.
Re:Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new cate... by caniszczyk on Sunday July 02, 2023 @12:33PM (#36563033)
agreed... I know a lot more folks that SSRIs have messed up in a variety ways than psychedelics... we should offer folks MORE options when fighting depression/anxiety and encourage experimentation
Re:Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new cate... by HeWhoLurksLate on Saturday July 01, 2023 @08:08PM (#36556707)
It seems to me that this is a fairly dangerous take- during and after the schooling required to become a doctor, surgeon, or nurse, the real-world experiences that these medical professionals have tends, over time, to outweigh the institutional knowledge they started with.

Ideally, reading new research should be part and parcel to everybody's professional career, but a ton of the advice that you'll receive from your doctor will be informed more by experience (compounding anecdote) than anything else.

Re:Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new cate... by the6thwonder on Sunday July 02, 2023 @01:31AM (#36558523)
> avoid personal anecdote, they have little value compared to what a doctor says.

Doctors are like engineers. There is a body of science and research for their field. They were once trained on part of it. But day to day each individual doctor is a practitioners. What they say is often just their own anecdotes. Research on a topic may exist but it's up to personal interest and work style whether they read it.

Re:Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new cate... by jokoon on Sunday July 02, 2023 @08:56AM (#36561053)
Doctors are not like engineers.

Human health and biology is far more complex and tricky that whatever engineers deal with.

Re:Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new cate... by the6thwonder on Sunday July 02, 2023 @11:15AM (#36562200)
I agree with that difference, but it's not relevant to the comment I made.
Re:Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new cate... by InCityDreams on Sunday July 02, 2023 @07:34AM (#36560448)
My doc is great at medicine, knows fuck-all about tripping.
Re:Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new cate... by chownie on Sunday July 02, 2023 @08:35AM (#36560880)
Counterpoint: I listened to my doctors for 8 years and took the medication they advised, didn't help me one bit.

Getting off SSRIs, changing my work situation and enjoying some LSD made a much bigger positive difference than endless sweaty nights on Prozac ever did.

Re:Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new cate... by HaZeust on Sunday July 02, 2023 @02:26PM (#36564195)
The reverse works for many other people. NEVER prescribe a "one-size-fits-all" policy or perspective for psychological methodologies.