Re:Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new cate...
by photochemsyn on Saturday July 01, 2023 @11:34PM
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Prolonged fasting and meditation can generate non-ordinary mental states (which you could call psychedelic trips if you like) but the mechanism and the effects are not the same. When it comes to psychoactive compounds, classification matters a lot, at least from a pharmacological perspective. For example, MDMA dependency is a lot more likely than LSD dependency from an abuse perspective as it hits the dopamine reward circuitry in the brain, and this is generally true of all the tryptamine-class psychedelics.
As far as ketamine, it's an organochlorine compound whose regular use is associated with liver and urinary toxicity, I can't believe anyone who knows about this would want to take it regularly or recreationally.
Re:Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new cate...
by jokowueu on Sunday July 02, 2023 @02:48AM
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You can't call prolonged fasting or meditation a psychadelic because it doesn't fit the the definition neither having a abuse potential or a compound that causes damage .
The definition exists , if you want to create a new word for it you can go ahead .
What you have mentioned are called classic psychadelics .
Something being a psychadelic has nothing to do with it's pathways.
Let's take a look at the definition .
Psychedelics are a subclass of hallucinogenic drugs whose primary effect is to trigger non-ordinary mental states (known as psychedelic experiences or psychedelic "trips") and/or an apparent expansion of consciousness
This fits ketamine perfectly, I have tried many substances and ketamine is one of the most powerful substances I have tried .