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Re:The Darwinian argument for worrying about AI by ChatGTP on Friday June 30, 2023 @07:30PM (#36544058)
While I mostly agree with you , doesn’t AlphaGo does have problems with complexity which is how it was beaten quite easily in recent times ?
Re:The Darwinian argument for worrying about AI by roenxi on Friday June 30, 2023 @08:15PM (#36544542)
I think that might have been KataGo rather than AlphaGo, but either way I wouldn't count on that sort of attack being successful in the long term. We haven't even had superhuman Go AI for a decade; the researchers are done with the basic algorithms yet. The current approach is basically random play weighted by win probability and I don't think they've really finished bringing in novel search techniques to explore the game space (pun intended, there'll probably be something big to find from things like http://eplex.cs.ucf.edu/noveltysearch/).

The fact that AI today isn't superhuman in every aspect is no real comfort. Post-AlphaGo humans don't seem to have any advantage that can be pointed to apart from having existed for more time. And computers move forward quite quickly.

Re:The Darwinian argument for worrying about AI by thfuran on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:00PM (#36545982)
Brains have been around for half a billion years. I'd say AI is putting on a pretty good show the last decade or so, considering.
Re:The Darwinian argument for worrying about AI by ChatGTP on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:24PM (#36546135)
Is there supposed to be major difference between KataGo and AlphaGo? Seems you’re arguing semantics there.
Re:The Darwinian argument for worrying about AI by roenxi on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:34PM (#36546203)
No significant difference, for our purposes they are more or less the same thing. But KataGo is an open source project out of Jane Street Capital and probably a bit stronger than AlphaGo (which was a Google project that was never released AFAIK). KataGo is also quite a bit bigger than AlphaGo in terms of popularity because people can actually play around with it.

It is like the BSD Kernel vs Linux - in many ways the differences are minor but they are different projects.