Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware?

Re:Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware? by MostlyStable on Friday June 30, 2023 @01:34PM (#36538986)

If "average quality" in everyone of those things was not acceptable to you and you actually needed the best of the best, and best quality could not be had in most phones....then yeah that might make sense. I doubt anyone actually cares to have absolutely top tier performance in every one of those categories though, and what most phones have is "good enough". Which is why/how phones ate all those functions. They do most of them "good enough" and "good enough" is all that most consumers care about.

Caring about performance in at least one of those categories is not that uncommon and carrying a dedicated device for that isn't crazy. I have used stand alone GPS receivers before even when I had my phone, and deciding that you need a better camera seems not crazy at all.

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Re:Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware? by scarface_74 on Friday June 30, 2023 @01:44PM (#36539146)

> Genuine question: why give yourself the headache of coupling having a great camera to choosong a phone then

But I can have a modern high end phone with a good camera. I can’t buy a camera that lets me take a picture, edit the picture on the device, and then the picture automatically gets backed up to iCloud, Google Photos, Microsoft’s One Drive and Amazon Photos and gets synced to all of my other devices.

I don’t have to settle for a low end phone that won’t see any updates after two years where the operating system is created by an adTech company.

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Re:Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware? by MostlyStable on Friday June 30, 2023 @01:56PM (#36539360)

While it's certainly not the mainstream set of priorities/preferences, it is possible for someone to have a set of priorities in a phone that precludes the high end cameras, while still wanting a very good camera. And depending on the weighting of those preferences, they might be willing to put up with the inconveniences you outline. It's obvious that you peronally don't share those preferences, which is completely fine. But it doesn't make sense to criticize someone else who does.

There are sets of preferences where it is not possible to satisfy all of them and something must be sacrificed. Some people will choose to sacrifice convenience.

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Re:Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware? by scarface_74 on Friday June 30, 2023 @02:09PM (#36539555)

Those are also the stated preference of the original poster

> How's the camera? For me, the camera is more important than anything else on a phone, and thus far I've been stuck with Pixels because, despite the shorter support period (and absolutely mind-bogglingly bad customer service), that software does amazing things with old camera hardware .

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