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Re:Supreme Court Rejects Student Loan Forgiveness Plan by sanderjd on Friday June 30, 2023 @12:37PM (#36538045)
I'm not sure you responded to the right comment here? I didn't say any of the stuff you seem to be responding to.

Maybe you're responding to what I said about unaccountable government cash? But you seem to be thinking I'm saying it's the students who lack accountability and whose incentives are screwed up by the government cash?

That's not it at all, it's not the students' incentives that are a mess under the current system and an even worse mess under the perpetual forgiveness system. It is schools whose incentives are messed up. They have no reason to keep from raising tuition and fees indefinitely because they are guaranteed to be paid. It's that problem that setting a precedent for forgiveness makes worse.

It has nothing to do with what people with student debt spend their money on.

Re:Supreme Court Rejects Student Loan Forgiveness Plan by oddtuple on Friday June 30, 2023 @01:55PM (#36539347)
Then nationalize the schools like every other major OEDC nation. This isn’t rocket science. I swear this country sometimes.
Re:Supreme Court Rejects Student Loan Forgiveness Plan by sanderjd on Friday June 30, 2023 @02:27PM (#36539844)
That's one potential solution, I'm not against it a priori, but would be interested in the exact details of it.

But it is not the only potential solution.

But the availability of other actual potential solutions does not make the non-solution of one-time blanket forgiveness that we're discussing here any more appealing to me.

Re:Supreme Court Rejects Student Loan Forgiveness Plan by oddtuple on Friday June 30, 2023 @05:19PM (#36542453)
Here’s some research that supports it

https://www.levyinstitute.org/pubs/rpr_2_6.pdf

Re:Supreme Court Rejects Student Loan Forgiveness Plan by sanderjd on Friday June 30, 2023 @06:26PM (#36543332)
Supports what? That paper seems to be narrowly about the economic impact of loan forgiveness, not about nationalizing higher education or about other potential solutions to the causes of student debt.
Re:Supreme Court Rejects Student Loan Forgiveness Plan by oddtuple on Friday June 30, 2023 @08:09PM (#36544474)
Pardon, this was deeper linked, but your previous comments describe the overall forgiveness as a bandaid, or generally not helpful. That is not supported by the research.
Re:Supreme Court Rejects Student Loan Forgiveness Plan by sanderjd on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:34PM (#36545321)
I do think it is a bandaid and generally not helpful, even if it is not economically damaging. Economic benefit or damage is only one aspect of the question.
Re:Supreme Court Rejects Student Loan Forgiveness Plan by oddtuple on Saturday July 01, 2023 @06:59AM (#36548785)
This is why this country will always be crabs in a bucket
Re:Supreme Court Rejects Student Loan Forgiveness Plan by sanderjd on Saturday July 01, 2023 @11:04AM (#36550888)
Why? Because a lot of people don't support counter-productive band-aids and would rather advocate for policies that solve actual problems? That doesn't seem like our issue to me...
Re:Supreme Court Rejects Student Loan Forgiveness Plan by yjftsjthsd-h on Friday June 30, 2023 @05:33PM (#36542623)
The USA has public schools; what do you want?
Re:Supreme Court Rejects Student Loan Forgiveness Plan by oddtuple on Friday June 30, 2023 @05:53PM (#36542891)
College, Education, training, viewing people as our greatest assists. This is America, we can do it
Re:Supreme Court Rejects Student Loan Forgiveness Plan by sanderjd on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:35PM (#36545330)
Our public colleges are essentially privately funded at this point. The amount of public funding in most states (with a small number of notable exceptions) is very small.