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Re:Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware? by scarface_74 on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:45AM (#36537063)
My Mac Mini built by Apple without using BootCamp was able to run Windows 7 just by sticking a DVD in.

How much more all encompassing can you get than that.

I assure that Apple never went out of its way to release firmware for the 1st gen Intel Mac Mini so it could work with Windows 7.

Windows 7 supported all of my Mac hardware - Bluetooth, gigabit Ethernet, wifi, and it found the IR sensor for the remote. I never tried to use it.

Even before that, I had more obscure x86 hardware - a 486DX/2-66Mhz “DOS Compatibility Card” for my old Mac that came with Windows 3.1 and had a built in Soundblaster card. I was able to our Windows 95 on it without any updated drivers from Apple.

Re:Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware? by kdklol on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:58AM (#36537316)
I'm not talking about compatibility updates for your network card, but about security updates. That is why you should be updating first and foremost.
Re:Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware? by scarface_74 on Friday June 30, 2023 @12:06PM (#36537477)
The Windows update mechanism also includes updates for third party firmware.