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Re:The Darwinian argument for worrying about AI by yetanotherloser on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:11AM (#36536301)
Very intelligent humans have more persuasive power over less intelligent humans than they do over most animals. Even then it's very inconsistent and it's not at all clear that intelligence helps win over humans all that much.

I will worry about hyperpersuasive AI when someone manages to come up with one that can talk flat earthers out of it...

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Re:The Darwinian argument for worrying about AI by abhaynayar on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:49AM (#36537132)
> I will worry about hyperpersuasive AI when someone manages to come up with one that can talk flat earthers out of it...

The real Turing Test.

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Re:The Darwinian argument for worrying about AI by deschutes on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:54AM (#36537244)
The effectiveness of persuasion depends on the appeal of the idea. AGI is going to have the credibility to make very appealing claims.

For an evil example, I imagine it would be easy to convince animals to eat poisoned food.

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Re:The Darwinian argument for worrying about AI by kwhitefoot on Friday June 30, 2023 @01:57PM (#36539371)
It would probably be easier to talk non-flat Earthers into it; or something much more harmful.
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Re:The Darwinian argument for worrying about AI by yetanotherloser on Friday June 30, 2023 @03:23PM (#36540766)
You've just given me a weird desire to try talking people into flat earthism just to get a feel for how difficult it is. I'm holding off... for now!

I do take your point though, the world is replete with causes which more or less look like averagely smart or even smarter people talked into campaigning for something that is against evidence, sense, morality or reason - or all of the above - which are also probably (or provably) against their own interests. I'm sure everyone reading can provide their own examples but please don't. I remain unconvinced that this sort of persuasion scales neatly with intelligence, though.

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