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Re:Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware? by scarface_74 on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:36AM (#36534627)
Only if you have a supported device and you are one of the single percentage of people who want to run non Google Android or deal with the hassle.
Re:Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware? by omniglottal on Friday June 30, 2023 @12:31PM (#36537928)
There is, in fact, zero hassle. "It just works " Also, GrapheneOS updates never remove functionality or battery life. But yes it only works on supported devices - in related news, iOS does not run on unsupported devices, so what's your point?
Re:Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware? by scarface_74 on Friday June 30, 2023 @12:52PM (#36538284)
I know I can buy an iOS device and get support from the vendor without hoping that some third party will support it out of the kindness of their heart and know that it supports apps from the AppStore.

I can do the same thing with Windows. Microsoft figured this out almost 30 years ago.

Apple just released a security update for the 2013 iPhone 5s earlier this year.

Re:Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware? by pessimizer on Friday June 30, 2023 @02:09PM (#36539560)
> Only if you have a supported device

Not a great point, Apple only sells like five devices.

Re:Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware? by scarface_74 on Friday June 30, 2023 @02:24PM (#36539796)
Apple has had security updates for the following iPhones this year: iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, iPhone 6s, iPhone 7, iPhone 7Plus iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, iPhone 10, iPhone 10XR, iPhone 10s, iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Plus, iPhone 12, iPhone 12 Pro, iPhone 12 Pro Max, iPhone 13 Pro, iPhone 13 Pro Max, iPhone 14, iPhone 14 Pro Max, and two generations of iPhone SEs and a couple of iPhone Minis