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Re:Asus Zenfone 10 by hiisukun on Thursday June 29, 2023 @08:38PM (#36528939)
I couldn't see any information other than 'Android 13' on the page -- how long do Asus tend to support their devices for? Sibling comments about LineageOS do give me some hope that if I buy this for a family member that tends to keep their phones for 5-10 years, it might actually be able to go the distance.

Am I the only one who feels that a device this powerful and expensive lasting 2-3years (or less!) is crazy? Especially when it's a 'software' limitation.

Re:Asus Zenfone 10 by 0cVlTeIATBs on Thursday June 29, 2023 @08:40PM (#36528957)
Reviewers are saying 4 years security updates, 2 years major android version updates.
Re:Asus Zenfone 10 by eBombzor on Thursday June 29, 2023 @08:58PM (#36529127)
I mean, I'm not saying that I need the latest Android all the time, but 2 years is pathetic.
Re:Asus Zenfone 10 by lagmos on Thursday June 29, 2023 @09:02PM (#36529166)
It's 2 major revisions, which is alright
Re:Asus Zenfone 10 by eBombzor on Thursday June 29, 2023 @10:03PM (#36529659)
No. No it's not. Rather get a last gen apple mini
Re:Asus Zenfone 10 by fomine3 on Thursday June 29, 2023 @10:27PM (#36529813)
Recent Android updates are boring (except foldable support), thanks to Google made apps and middlewares separated (unlike Apple iOS). I'm fine with older version with security patches.
Re:Asus Zenfone 10 by BLKNSLVR on Thursday June 29, 2023 @09:24PM (#36529386)
And the software limitation seems to be a pretty weak excuse given that volunteer devs support LineageOS on devices well older than 2 years.

Plus other crazy things about the replacement cycle:

- Battery life (arguably) degrades faster than software support and yet the industry moved AWAY from replaceable baterries

- Software bloat makes hardware seem slower, where replacing a factory ROM with LineageOS or some other slimmer Android version can really feel like a hardware upgrade

- The e-waste, my word the e-waste! There's no cost to the manfacturer for any kind of lifecycle management of the (some very precious) resources used to create these devices (this is also true for pretty much every industry).

- The opposite of the "Microsoft Office feature" effect. The average consumer seems to need the latest trivial upgrade or new cool-but-actually-pointless function that manufacturers dream up as a differentiator. Remember when numerous iterations of Microsoft Office meant no actual usage difference to anyone but absolute power users. Times have changed, consumer culture is a tightening cycle. (not that I'm immune, and I have to consciously try quite hard to resist it).

- Counter to the point above: removal of general-purpose computing functions / use-cases. No SD card slot, no headphone jack. I used to have an Sony Ericsson that had a mini/micro HDMI port. Was able to output video to a TV with the appropriate cable. These devices are so capable of many things, but they're handcuffed and hamstrung by design.

My current phone is only 2.5 years old, custom ROM installed so it's on Android 13 and runs really well, and it's the battery life that's making it feel "old" (now that the customr ROM has solved the software old-ness issue).