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Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by earthboundkid on Thursday June 29, 2023 @12:15PM (#36522473)
Yeah, the point should always have been explicitly to be reparations for slavery/Jim Crow and the Native American genocide. But that was never really explicit, and there was a lot of mission drift over the last fifty years.
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by giardini on Thursday June 29, 2023 @12:39PM (#36522891)
Yes, and generations have passed, so that train has left the station, so to speak. Reparations are no longer an acceptable solution.
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by mrguyorama on Thursday June 29, 2023 @02:32PM (#36524733)
And yet the grandkids of those slave owners sure as hell still profit from their ill gotten gains
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by BobbyJo on Thursday June 29, 2023 @04:35PM (#36526335)
> And yet the grandkids of those slave owners sure as hell still profit from their ill gotten gains.

Source? I'd venture to guess most have reverted back to mean wealth given downward mobility rates [0] and the time since slavery ended.

[0] https://www.chicagofed.org/research/mobility/intergeneration...

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by Alupis on Thursday June 29, 2023 @08:10PM (#36528689)
Not to mention so very few families owned slaves back in the day. The way people talk, you'd think everyone had slaves - no, that was a very small minority of ultra-wealthy people.

What about people who's families immigrated here post-slavery? Their tax money has to pay reparations too?

Reparations is a non-starter. Any discussion or endeavor to push for reparations is a naked attempt to buy votes with lies.

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by prpl on Thursday June 29, 2023 @12:28PM (#36522673)
and redlining, and other formal, informal, intentional and unintentional institutional (particularly governmental and financial) policies that limited people’s access to success based on their race.
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by pessimizer on Thursday June 29, 2023 @12:39PM (#36522880)
Anything explicitly discriminatory that the government could have done something about and chose not to. We need to forget about "microaggressions" and deal with the macroaggressions. It's typical that white liberals have embarked on the project of detecting subtle clues to the slightest slights and condemning people for them, when they should just treat historical race-based abuse claims like any other compensation claim.

If you look at black people's family trees enough, you'll find plenty with specific inheritance claims against their white, slaver ancestors. Black people in America are the descendants of white rapists as well as imported slaves.

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by earthboundkid on Thursday June 29, 2023 @04:29PM (#36526252)
Yes. I was sort of lumping redlining in with Jim Crow, although I guess it's technically a distinct thing.
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by tbihl on Thursday June 29, 2023 @12:45PM (#36523014)
It's probably a reliable collective action problem. For example, the point of the 1965 Civil Rights Act was to help black men so their families could stay intact, but Howard Smith poison-pilled the whole thing by diverting it to women.

For people who are in the military, I point this out in its internship form. The Skillbridge program was designed to facilitate internships for departing servicemen to address difficulties with veteran unemployment, but the spoils mostly go to officers with highly marketable skills, like submarine and cryptography officers. After all, those officers have each been practicing the art of finding and utilizing beneficial programs to their advantage for decades by that point in their lives; why wouldn't they use this one too?

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by ajsnigrutin on Thursday June 29, 2023 @10:55PM (#36529979)
But people who never owned slaves are now discriminated against so people who never were slaves get priviliges and get accepted to college.