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Re:Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk b... by LegitShady on Thursday June 29, 2023 @11:15AM (#36521518)
It’s actually sodium nitrite that’s carcinogenic (after being exposed to high heat), and I can find bacon without sodium nitrite here pretty much at every grocery store.
Re:Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk b... by galangalalgol on Thursday June 29, 2023 @11:22AM (#36521635)
If it is completely uncured sure, but usually niteite/nitrate free bacon has an asterisk saying something like "beyond what is naturally found in the added celery juice". If you heat those nitrites in the bacon it doesn't the same thing as the synthetic stuff would. Luckily trichinosis is largely a thing of the past, so why heat it? Uncooked bacon tastes awesome. Also, in stews I believe it does reach the dangerous temps?
Re:Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk b... by malnourish on Thursday June 29, 2023 @11:22AM (#36521633)
Adding to what remote_phone said, and repeating another comment of mine, that nitrite free bacon still has the same amount of nitrites (in some cases, more).

https://www.americastestkitchen.com/cooksillustrated/how_tos...

Re:Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk b... by LegitShady on Thursday June 29, 2023 @04:31PM (#36526271)
There’s one place near me that sells actual nitrate/nitrite free bacon but its super expensive - $10-12 Canadian for 250grams or so. It like double bacon in the store and its an hour drive away.

Sad to learn about the celery nitrite thing. I’ve been overpaying for it for a while now, apparently. It literally says “contains no preservatives” but has “cultured celery extract” in the ingredients, so its a lie.

Re:Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk b... by copperx on Thursday June 29, 2023 @11:02PM (#36530039)
Yup. You were overpaying for a worse product. Unfortunately, that seems to be the norm in processed products branded as healthy.

It's better to stick the the regular version; the kinks have been probably worked out. Still unsafe, but unsafe in a known quantity.

Re:Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk b... by remote_phone on Thursday June 29, 2023 @11:20AM (#36521607)
If you read carefully, it still contains sodium nitrite except as powdered celery. So the source of the sodium nitrate is “natural” but the dose is still the same.
Re:Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk b... by LegitShady on Thursday June 29, 2023 @11:31AM (#36521805)
Fml so I’ve been paying more for nitrite free bacon that still has nitrite in it?

It feels like saying something contains no nitrites or preservatives and then including them in the form of cultured celery extract should be fraud/false advertising and a crime.

Re:Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk b... by tptacek on Thursday June 29, 2023 @06:44PM (#36527890)
You extremely have been conned by the "nitrite-free bacon" labeling, yes. This is something that food writers have been complaining about for over a decade.
Re:Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk b... by Shorel on Saturday July 01, 2023 @03:41PM (#36554238)
I buy raw pork belly. Doesn't taste the same after being cooked, but surely it has no nitrites. ;)
Re:Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk b... by tptacek on Thursday June 29, 2023 @06:39PM (#36527824)
Sodium nitrate converts to sodium nitrite over the course of a cure; that's why Prague Powder #2 is used for long-term cures.
Re:Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk b... by nomel on Thursday June 29, 2023 @08:59PM (#36529141)
This is not correct, in spirit of "is it carcinogenic": https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/nursing-and-health-prof...

This is why Vitamin C was a required additive, with "nitrate" cured meats. Unfortunately, it is not with the "nitrate from celery" forms, which should lead to more cancer.

Re:Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk b... by susysink on Friday June 30, 2023 @06:50AM (#36532778)
But without sodium nitrite you instead run the risk of increased bacterial growth, and in the worse case: botulinum toxin which is like instant death compared to dying of cancer at 70+.