Re:US Congress doubles down on explosive claims of illegal U...
by themagician on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @06:03PM
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Is it really “9/11 truther” to believe the terrorists flew planes into buildings and the government was too incompetent to stop them? I believe that’s the most anti-truther take possible.
Re:US Congress doubles down on explosive claims of illegal U...
by dekhn on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @06:28PM
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I misread your comment.
Re:US Congress doubles down on explosive claims of illegal U...
by mcpackieh on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @06:11PM
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A "9/11 Truther" is somebody who disputes the 9/11 Commission's Report. themagician is doing the opposite; men with box cutters crashing planes into buildings is precisely what the 9/11 Commission Report says. Will realizing this change how you feel about the merit of his comment, or will you still feel the same way even though your original reason for feeling this way was completely backwards?
Re:US Congress doubles down on explosive claims of illegal U...
by dekhn on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @06:26PM
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It's likely because I misparsed the meaning of this sentence:
"I would not be surprised in the least to find out that the 9/11 conspiracies were funded by the DoD"
thinking that the person I was responding to was suggesting the DoD may have funded the terrorists (a "conspiracy" is a secret plan to do something unlawful).
After re-reading, I see now the claim is that the DoD may have funded the truthers- which I know nothing about.
Re:US Congress doubles down on explosive claims of illegal U...
by TechBro8615 on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @06:59PM
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By the way, you might be interested to know that recent reporting [0] (by Rolling Stone contributing editor Seth Hettena on the Substack SpyTalk, the media project run by veteran former Newsweek national security reporter Jeff Stein), based on legal filings in Guantanamo Bay cases against 9/11 plotters, suggests that the FBI believes the CIA did fund some of the 9/11 terrorists, in the sense that they were cultivating them as intelligence sources. The mundane explanation is not that they sanctioned or even knew about the 9/11 plot, but rather that they failed to share intelligence with the rest of the intelligence community because they didn't want to compromise their source. But there is credible evidence to suggest that the terrorists were not only on the radar of the CIA, but were being actively developed as sources.
[0] https://www.spytalk.co/p/exclusive-fbi-agents-accuse-cia-of
Re:US Congress doubles down on explosive claims of illegal U...
by nl on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @07:43PM
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The CIA not sharing information was pretty much the conclusion of the 9/11 report. The CIA cultivating informers (and still not knowing the plans for 9/11) is a long way from what "9/11 Truthers" claim.
Re:US Congress doubles down on explosive claims of illegal U...
by cyberneticist on Thursday June 29, 2023 @08:58AM
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People are just stupid on this topic.
The moment the Rubicon is crossed, both the US and China would fall into an all out economic depression and that is exactly why that Rubicon will not be crossed in my lifetime.
This might be an issue at some point if you just graduated high school but for now we have mutually assured economic destruction.
I am far more worried about a debt bomb going off in China than a real bomb.
Re:US Congress doubles down on explosive claims of illegal U...
by berniedurfee on Thursday June 29, 2023 @06:49PM
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First domestic aircraft carrier that is a copy of a broken Russian aircraft carrier they bought at a garage sale, right?
China just finished their first domestic aircraft carrier, and the current military hasn't really been in any major war. In the meantime, the US has continually maintained a state of readiness and nearly constant wars while modernizing its fleet.
But you had to just go 9/11 Truther which means nobody here should really be paying attention to you.