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Re:Apple joins opposition to encrypted message app scanning by JohnFen on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @02:15PM (#36510361)
> I'm simply trying to point out that CSAM is a real problem. People really care about it. And it's factually wrong to claim otherwise.

Very nearly nobody is arguing otherwise, though.

> Apple/Google/etc still maintains the technical ability to snoop on you regardless of this law.

Absolutely. Not only can they, but they do.

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Re:Apple joins opposition to encrypted message app scanning by camhart on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @02:27PM (#36510519)
> Very nearly nobody is arguing otherwise, though.

How is equating CSAM to (merely) emotional weight not doing that?

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Re:Apple joins opposition to encrypted message app scanning by Al0neStar on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @02:48PM (#36510787)
CSAM does carry emotional weight. Your entire argument is that since privacy measures are already loose then its okay to make them looser for "the children".
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Re:Apple joins opposition to encrypted message app scanning by camhart on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @02:58PM (#36510940)
> CSAM does carry emotional weight.

I never argued it doesn't.

> Your entire argument is that since privacy measures are already loose then its okay to make them looser for "the children".

Where did I make this argument? (hint: I didn't)

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Re:Apple joins opposition to encrypted message app scanning by Al0neStar on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:17PM (#36511206)
Privacy is binary you either have it or you dont and to argue that there exists a "balance" is disingenuous.
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Re:Apple joins opposition to encrypted message app scanning by camhart on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @04:16PM (#36511975)
That isn't reality. You give up privacy all the time in exchange for things. And even with e2ee you don't "have" privacy guaranteed.
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Re:Apple joins opposition to encrypted message app scanning by JPws_Prntr_Fngr on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @10:52PM (#36515769)
The disingenuousness is the point. You're trying to rationalize with authoritarians, who do not argue in good faith.
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