Volvo Cars Adopts Tesla's NACS Port in the United States, Canada and Mexico

Re:Volvo Cars Adopts Tesla's NACS Port in the United States,... by pkulak on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @12:55PM (#36509191)

This is the North American charging standard. North America previously standardized on CCS1 (which is exactly the same as CCS2, but without 3-phase support, which we don't need here) and it has done nothing. My perspective is plenty broad. What point are you trying to make, exactly? That if we just continue doing exactly as we have, NA will turn into Europe eventually?

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Re:Volvo Cars Adopts Tesla's NACS Port in the United States,... by clouddrover on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @05:36PM (#36512950)

> CCS1 (which is exactly the same as CCS2, but without 3-phase support, which we don't need here)

No, it's a mechanically different plug.

> What point are you trying to make, exactly?

That every other company that has tried to charge EVs has not utterly failed. Your perspective is narrow and it has caused you to believe a falsehood.

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Re:Volvo Cars Adopts Tesla's NACS Port in the United States,... by pkulak on Friday June 30, 2023 @08:32PM (#36544708)

Okay, I sincerely apologize for not saying that "every company in North America" has failed. I probably just figured that since this whole conversation is about the North American Charging Standard it was implied. But you are right. There are companies in Europe that have succeed. Maybe Mars too? Haven't been there, not driving my NACS car there, but you can win that argument too, if you like.

And the plug is mechanically different in that it has one fewer pin due too... drum roll please... no 3-phase support. But it is mechanically different, so you can win there too, if you like. Look at you! Winning all the pedantry awards today. So much fun. I mean, we're not having a damn conversation about anything, just arguing over every single word I say that you can possibly find an issue with, but to some people, this is as much fun as you can have.

Pi is exactly 3.

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Re:Volvo Cars Adopts Tesla's NACS Port in the United States,... by clouddrover on Friday June 30, 2023 @08:45PM (#36544873)

> Okay, I sincerely apologize

I don't have much use for your sorrys. It's better you think about what you're saying rather than running around in ignorance. Your narrow outlook prevents you from seeing better alternatives.

> And the plug is mechanically different in that it has one fewer pin

No, Type 2 has a different shape and two more pins than Type 1. CCS type 2 is used in more countries than any other EV plug.

Have a read:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Charging_System

Broaden your horizons.

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Re:Volvo Cars Adopts Tesla's NACS Port in the United States,... by pkulak on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:35PM (#36546213)

Lol, who talks like this?

Like I said, you are right about everything. I'm an uncultured imbecile. I'll start reading more, going to museums. I'll travel the world. Europe is paramount when considering US charging infrastructure. The shape of a connector is the most important part. Can we move on and have you tell me your point? What do you actually have to say about Volvo adopting NACS?

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Re:Volvo Cars Adopts Tesla's NACS Port in the United States,... by clouddrover on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:40PM (#36546254)

> Europe is paramount when considering US charging infrastructure.

It is when you want an example of how to do it right. Europe is a long way ahead of North America in EV infrastructure because of sensible standardization.

Learn from Europe. Europe is doing EV infrastructure better.

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