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Re:Plane Crash Rates by Model by kube-system on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @05:15PM (#36498777)
The NEO is a much newer plane with much less history than the NG which has been around since the mid 90s. I'm sure it's safe too.

It is fair to compare the A320 family with the NG. They are comparable planes and have comparable crash stats too. (0.09 vs 0.07)

Re:Plane Crash Rates by Model by nawgz on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @05:18PM (#36498812)
That’s such a misleading number. The numbers you post EXCLUDE both NEO and MAX crash rates, but meanwhile the MAX would grossly inflate 737-NG rates and NEO flights would slightly depress A320 rates

I highly suggest not citing those numbers

Re:Plane Crash Rates by Model by laverya on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @05:35PM (#36498985)
There are 6 times more "events" listed for the 737-NG variants as there are for the MAX, so there wouldn't be much inflation.

(There's also more than 100x more flights with the NG than the MAX)

Re:Plane Crash Rates by Model by nawgz on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @07:32AM (#36504970)
1/6 the events in a vanishing amount of samples would probably imply the number to be 7/6, and given the passenger counts I imagine that’s an undercount. Therefore the crashes would look more like 0.085 for both Single Aisles in aggregate…
Re:Plane Crash Rates by Model by kube-system on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @06:18PM (#36499462)
The planes are grouped the way they are because they are mechanically of the same generation, not because they have similar names. The NEO and MAX are newer generation planes than their predecessors.
Re:Plane Crash Rates by Model by nawgz on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @09:08AM (#36505874)
NEO is not a new generation plane, it’s a new engine option with some engineering work to support the bigger engines but overwhelmingly similar airframe and flight characteristics. They also put sharklets on the wings by default

MAX is not just a new engine option, it’s an entirely overhauled configuration and position which accordingly drastically altered flight characteristics masked by all new fly-by-wire systems and previously half-baked safety monitoring in order to prevent Boeing from needing recertification.

Which speaks perfectly to the culture of safety at Airbus vs the new Boeing management approach that is the hallmark of American late stage capitalism