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Re:Undoing the Alhambra Decree by mistrial9 on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @03:56PM (#36497859)
I think you missed filling in your [7] and [10] refs there..

The New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) Bible (english), in the plain text commentary says -- clearly it was the Romans who did kill Jesus. Note the commentary at the beginning of the Gospel of Mark. This Bible edition (and commentary) are very widely used in the Protestant world.

Secondly, from a broader point of view, the trial, laws and sentence of Jesus are worldly events, while the entrance to sacred mysteries are subsequent to those events.

Re:Undoing the Alhambra Decree by sigzero on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @04:13PM (#36498067)
"Commentary" is extra-biblical and doesn't mean it is true or correct.
Re:Undoing the Alhambra Decree by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @04:01PM (#36497923)
See Acts 4:27. Jesus' followers singled out Herod and Pontius Pilate, but blamed the Gentiles and the Jews for the death of Jesus. (And, in the next verse, state that this was all God's will and plan.)

Blaming the Jews alone seems wrong. But so does blaming the Romans alone.

Re:Undoing the Alhambra Decree by mistrial9 on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @10:49PM (#36501676)
it appears that NRSV Bible text for Acts 4:27 chose

For in this city, in fact, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, gathered together against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed

Re:Undoing the Alhambra Decree by KoftaBob on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @04:13PM (#36498064)
The romans did the literal killing because Judea was a roman province, and therefore it was up to the Roman garrison to carry out the punishment.

The people who *called* for the punishment were largely the Jewish Sanhedrin and people of the crowds.

So if we’re going to be pedantic, a more accurate statement would be “The Jewish people petitioned their Roman overlords to kill Jesus on their behalf”.