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Re:Monitoring Is a Pain by prpl on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @02:18PM (#36496674)
Another thing - Traces (and often metrics for that matter) are often treated as something that is investigated one at a time. There's a lot of tools out there to help visualize a trace. They are not, usually, treated as something that should be analyzed at scale, and the tooling there is not great.

I think PromScale looked promising for some of those problems but it's also a deprecated product.

I think the state of the art is/will be ingesting traces into Iceberg for some form of analysis with whatever execution engine you want (Trino/Spark/etc...). A lot of places are doing this.

OpenTelemetry is clearly the future of monitoring, probably with a lot of lifting from Prometheus and other things.

Re:Monitoring Is a Pain by zug_zug on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @03:46PM (#36497730)
So what I want is something like Splunk search for traces. I want to be able to write 12-shareable lines of custom-query and immediately get a pretty graph of multidimensional data "What % of users who just registered this month got a 500 more than half the time on this specific path?" and I want it as a pretty graph over time
Re:Monitoring Is a Pain by phillipcarter on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @05:36PM (#36499003)
That's precisely what tools like Honeycomb and Lightstep offer. But most vendors don't have a traces-first approach to querying data.
Re:Monitoring Is a Pain by zug_zug on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @09:29PM (#36515194)
Really? I haven't used honeycomb specifically, but you're saying it supports an arbitrarily complex query depth, with any number of joins essentially?
Re:Monitoring Is a Pain by 8note on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @10:16PM (#36501502)
I kinda hacked x-ray onto things, but it does give you an overview aggregate for each node

I'm not sure if I've really found it useful though. Im sure if I didn't know the service, itd be great, but I already know where to look for whatever problem