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Re:What Type of Exercise Is Best for Mental Health? by zdragnar on Sunday June 25, 2023 @07:04PM (#36473571)
Another +1 here for that argument being distinctly not Judeo-Christian. Orthodox Christians in particular are of the belief that you worship with your whole self- mind, body and soul.
Re:What Type of Exercise Is Best for Mental Health? by mensetmanusman on Sunday June 25, 2023 @10:28PM (#36475022)
Yeah, the idea that we drive the body around is some official ancient heresy I believe.
Re:What Type of Exercise Is Best for Mental Health? by haswell on Sunday June 25, 2023 @10:46PM (#36475149)
As a child of fundamental baptists, all of the circles I grew up in saw their bodies as temporary shells.

They also saw their bodies as created by god, and thoughts/emotions as having metaphysical sources and consequences. Setting aside any specific doctrinal positions, the broader claims and beliefs of the church push one to think of themselves in some rather odd ways.

If certain thoughts and feelings are temptations from the devil, actually believing this explanation short circuits the systemic explanations for those thoughts/feelings, and leaves one to conclude that the body must not have anything to do with it.

I believe the Christian worldview involving a creator god more broadly points people in this direction not necessarily because of specific claims, but as a downstream effect of the broader philosophy.

Re:What Type of Exercise Is Best for Mental Health? by birdyrooster on Monday June 26, 2023 @02:35AM (#36476447)
Ghosts in the shell if you will
Re:What Type of Exercise Is Best for Mental Health? by zdragnar on Monday June 26, 2023 @11:15AM (#36480746)
Interesting.

> thoughts/emotions as having metaphysical sources

Maybe this is a Protestant or a reformed thing? Yes, the devil is a temptor, but pretty much every sect agrees that there is no way for man to redeem himself but through faith. It is our nature to sin, and thus we are perfectly capable of it without the devil's help.

Re:What Type of Exercise Is Best for Mental Health? by haswell on Monday June 26, 2023 @12:54PM (#36482368)
As an adult, I can appreciate the nuance of the positions of these various sects (though to be clear, I consider myself an atheist at this stage of life).

But as a young child required to learn about how the world functions according to these ideas during the critical period of self-formation, such nuance was lost, and many foundational/implicit beliefs were formed and left behind.

More broadly, I think it’s interesting to consider whether some of this is an unintentional side effect of the teachings, even if the texts technically communicate something else.

I know that for me personally, when I first encountered other schools of thought on the mind/body connection and my concept of my own self/body started to shift, all I could think is “holy shit, this is the opposite of what I was taught”.