Re:Zed Shaw responds to DHH's Ruby Myths
by tptacek on Friday November 14, 2008 @03:12PM
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Be more specific about why Zed's post is "damning".
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Did you read both Zed's and DHH's posts? Perhaps "damning" is too strong a word in this situation, but at the very least DHH is clearly mistaken. At worst, he is a liar.
Memory leaks in Mongrel that were fixed in 2006 are the at the center of DHH's argument that RoR crashes are ancient history. Yet Zed shows that the application DHH is referring to that previously needed to be restarted 400 times a day wasn't even running on Mongrel.
It could be a slip of the tongue. It's easy to accidentally write mongrel when thinking and writing about "that guy who wrote mongrel."
It is easy and more fun to assume malice, but honest mistakes happen.
My read was that DHH was referring to leaks in the Basecamp code, not leaks in Mongrel. Was I mistaken? If so, my argument --- that Zed picked an irrelevant nit to derail DHH's argument --- pretty much falls apart.
Re:Zed Shaw responds to DHH's Ruby Myths
by aaronblohowiak on Friday November 14, 2008 @03:16PM
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He accuses DHH of lying, and refers to an earlier (AFAIK uncontested) recording of the conversation to demonstrate his point.
Edit: I agree 100% with jm4's elaboration down below.
You're using the word "lying" where "mistaken" would do just as well. To import the Wikipedia rule: (A)ssume (G)ood (F)aith.
Re:Zed Shaw responds to DHH's Ruby Myths
by aaronblohowiak on Friday November 14, 2008 @06:55PM
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That's a good point. Which is why I said that Zed accuses him of lying, and why I said that it is potentially damning, and refrained from making a judgment myself.. and why I look forward to the rebuttal.
Edit: please see http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=365020