Re:Nhtsa: Car crashes cost Americans $340B, or $1,035 per pe...
by HarryHirsch on Saturday June 24, 2023 @09:38PM
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The right metric is traffic deaths per capita, because that means so-and-so many families are have lost a relative in a car crash. If you use traffic deaths per mile driven you begin to excuse excessive commutes when what you want to do lower fatalities.
Re:Nhtsa: Car crashes cost Americans $340B, or $1,035 per pe...
by MrOwnPut on Saturday June 24, 2023 @09:57PM
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If you spend more time driving, of course you're risking more.
If no-one left their house, there would be less casualties for many outdoor activities.
You have to account for per-mile.
Re:Nhtsa: Car crashes cost Americans $340B, or $1,035 per pe...
by vharuck on Saturday June 24, 2023 @10:00PM
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Reducing the risk per mile driven would reduce deaths, but so would reducing miles driven. More public transportation would achieve that.
Re:Nhtsa: Car crashes cost Americans $340B, or $1,035 per pe...
by HarryHirsch on Saturday June 24, 2023 @10:05PM
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Higher-density housing wouldn't be the worst idea, especially higher-density housing near light railway when combined with public parks. The suburban paradises are plainly incompatible with public transport.
Re:Nhtsa: Car crashes cost Americans $340B, or $1,035 per pe...
by refurb on Saturday June 24, 2023 @11:19PM
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By that same logic we could avoid surgery deaths by not doing surgery.
But then you're ignoring the benefit.
Re:Nhtsa: Car crashes cost Americans $340B, or $1,035 per pe...
by sagarm on Sunday June 25, 2023 @12:54AM
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The correct analogy: avoid surgery with preventative healthcare and lifestyle changes.
Re:Nhtsa: Car crashes cost Americans $340B, or $1,035 per pe...
by HarryHirsch on Sunday June 25, 2023 @11:09AM
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How do you call this paradox where mortality increases at a hospital because simple cases are diverted to outpatient clinic and only the severe cases are seen at the inpatient facility?
Re:Nhtsa: Car crashes cost Americans $340B, or $1,035 per pe...
by refurb on Monday June 26, 2023 @01:05PM
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Adverse selection.
Re:Nhtsa: Car crashes cost Americans $340B, or $1,035 per pe...
by HarryHirsch on Saturday June 24, 2023 @10:43PM
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By that reasoning, traffic safety is increased by moving the bar from downtown to 30 minutes down the road when in fact it should be at the corner, so people can walk and leave the car at home. Good to have the misconception cleared up.
Re:Nhtsa: Car crashes cost Americans $340B, or $1,035 per pe...
by MrOwnPut on Sunday June 25, 2023 @12:16AM
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Sure, but no-one was arguing that.
Let's all start a fund to build bars closer?
Congrats on that break-through.
Re:Nhtsa: Car crashes cost Americans $340B, or $1,035 per pe...
by DangitBobby on Sunday June 25, 2023 @12:47AM
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I disagree. Per Capita is the right metric. Per mile doesn't equalize everyone because we have to drive so much than everyone else to get around. When talking about social costs, per Capita makes the most sense.
Re:Nhtsa: Car crashes cost Americans $340B, or $1,035 per pe...
by morepork on Sunday June 25, 2023 @03:16AM
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You're comparing numbers in different units.
USA is in deaths per 100 million miles. The rest are in deaths per billion km. USA is 9.3 deaths per billion km if you do the conversion.
The US is actually pretty good at 1.5 versus UK (5.3), Denmark (7.2), France (5.8).
https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/historical-fatalit...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic...