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Re:The Case Against Travel by brtkdotse on Saturday June 24, 2023 @09:36AM (#36458576)
> Even someone who takes a 20 hour flight to take photos for Instagram is having a unique life experience.

A 20 hour flight emit twice the amount of carbon that the sustainable YEARLY PER CAPITA amount.

There’s no way of framing this as not incredibly selfish.

Re:The Case Against Travel by xboxnolifes on Saturday June 24, 2023 @01:02PM (#36460487)
Sure there is. Do it once every 3 years. Simple math.
Re:The Case Against Travel by brtkdotse on Saturday June 24, 2023 @03:26PM (#36461896)
A sustainable level of CO2 emissions per person is 2.3 tonnes per year. This includes food, housing, clothing and transportation.

A 20 hour flight produces ~3 tonnes of CO2. This is ON TOP of the CO2 used up for living.

Re:The Case Against Travel by xboxnolifes on Saturday June 24, 2023 @03:36PM (#36461986)
You haven't given the number of how much CO2 people use to live, only what the sustainable number is, so there isn't enough information to make any conclusion.
Re:The Case Against Travel by brtkdotse on Saturday June 24, 2023 @04:18PM (#36462326)
The current average in the US is ~16 tonnes per year, so around.
Re:The Case Against Travel by xboxnolifes on Saturday June 24, 2023 @04:45PM (#36462499)
Sounds like that number just takes the CO2 that the us produces and divides by population. It would be agreeable if the wealth that came from that CO2 production did also was similarly distributed, but since it's not, that's not really how much your every day joe produces to live. It's what is produced to put another billion dollars onto a company's books.
Re:The Case Against Travel by brtkdotse on Saturday June 24, 2023 @06:08PM (#36463094)
Still, it’s produced and it’s produced because there’s demand.

But yes, I agree, the vast majority of CO2 is produced by corporations who don’t pay for the externalities they create.

Re:The Case Against Travel by mozman on Saturday June 24, 2023 @04:04PM (#36462217)
I quite enjoy traveling and fly about 50,000 miles per year. I take offense to your sentiment. I have as much right to travel as anyone else. We need to live and let live.
Re:The Case Against Travel by brtkdotse on Saturday June 24, 2023 @04:24PM (#36462364)
> I take offense to your sentiment.

I’m sorry I offended you. Do you have a better term for someone using several hundred percent more than their allotment of a resource?

Re:The Case Against Travel by mozman on Sunday June 25, 2023 @01:16AM (#36465307)
The alottment is how much I can buy.