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Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by seanmcdirmid on Thursday June 22, 2023 @09:22PM (#36441608)
> And I will take the 900lbs and $10k+ that shaves off, thank you.

Going from digital to analog control is more likely to add weight and cost, so you aren't going to save in that regard. Specifically going back from the infotainment system to an old fashioned analog control panel would likely add more cost and weight than it saves.

Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by voisin on Thursday June 22, 2023 @09:26PM (#36441643)
I think OPnia referring not to going digital to analog but going from feature rich to feature lite.
Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by seanmcdirmid on Thursday June 22, 2023 @09:39PM (#36441745)
That's fine, but it isn't going to happen by going back in time, rather they take a modern all digital design and just take features away. So your dash is going to still be digital, not because it is fancy, but because it is economical. You would wind up with something like: https://carnewschina.com/2017/08/08/meet-gms-cheapest-electr...
Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by flagrant_taco on Friday June 23, 2023 @01:17AM (#36443083)
If the concern is lifetime ownership cost, repairs need to factor in as well. More analog parts, fewer features, and individual parts rather than monolithic control systems all can make a big difference in repairability.
Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by seanmcdirmid on Friday June 23, 2023 @01:27AM (#36443147)
You have to run more wires, more points of failure, more things to wear out. It is heavier, more expensive to produce, but ya, you can repair individual parts maybe without replacing the entire head unit.
Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by throwawaylinux on Thursday June 22, 2023 @09:44PM (#36441793)
All that cheap garbage does not weigh 900lbs or cost $10k, and they'd probably call it race trim and charge you more for it.
Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by abakker on Thursday June 22, 2023 @10:46PM (#36442212)
You can save almost 1/3 to 1/2 of the 900 lbs going to manual seats from electric in some cars. It is amazing how much some of the convenience features weigh. Power tailgates? Power seats? Power sunroof? Sunroof at all? Glass and motors are the enemy.
Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by seanmcdirmid on Friday June 23, 2023 @01:13AM (#36443059)
Ya, any feature that requires moving parts can be eliminated to save money and weight. But none of those are new (even if they are more common now).
Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by brucethemoose2 on Friday June 23, 2023 @12:29AM (#36442788)
Yeah as others said I didn't mean going analog. The dash should be super minimal, in fact, but simple digital controls are fine.

I just meant going with cheaper and lighter.

Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by seanmcdirmid on Friday June 23, 2023 @01:17AM (#36443084)
Did you check out the Baojun E100? The Chinese have made (and sold) plenty if minimal EVs, just not much market for them in the states (well, our safety standards are different also).