Debris field found in search for missing submersible

Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by kitd on Thursday June 22, 2023 @03:51PM (#36437804)

I think the idea of being trapped in a confined space kilometers under the sea has a visceral effect on the imagination that a boat voyage on the surface doesn't, regardless of how tragic the outcome is in both events. It pokes and prods many of our deep phobias.

Similar stories like the Thai boys trapped in the cave, or the Chilean miners, had a similar effect.

A bit like "Snakes on a plane". Again, trapped with your phobias.

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Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by nomel on Thursday June 22, 2023 @04:43PM (#36438680)

Yes, it's good entertainment, for many.

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Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by finitemonkey on Thursday June 22, 2023 @04:53PM (#36438812)

Most of those refugees were trapped to. They were locked in and then the thing capsized.

But they didn't go to watch a shipwreck sunken long ago for some entertainment. They tried to cross over to Europe out of desperation for a better life. Much better to fill the news cycle with the rich dudes.

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Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by boeingUH60 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @05:07PM (#36439024)

You’re just looking for outrage where there is none.

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Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by hef19898 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @06:15PM (#36439881)

Regarding drowning people in the Mediteranian and eslewhere, yes, there should be more, and constant, outrage. It says a lot about Western society that there isn't, that it doesn't even really make the news anymore...

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Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by boeingUH60 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @06:20PM (#36439938)

It made the news everywhere around the world. But perpetually outraged people gonna find anything to outrage about anyways..

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Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by hef19898 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @06:30PM (#36440058)

Oh, there should be outrage about the kere fact we allow those disasters, the migrants and not the rich people at the Titanic, to happen. There isn't, and some news coverage is by no means enough.

But hey, we in the West are fine not worrying too much about some poor folks Africa dying at our door steps. Because doing so, would force us to face the fact that we are by no means as morally superior than we like to think, and just convinced ourselves to be with all the help Ukrainian refugees got. So, we prefer not to think about it, as a society.

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Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by boeingUH60 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @06:51PM (#36440289)

You doth rant too much to the point of incoherence…

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Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by hef19898 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @06:53PM (#36440320)

Sure I do "rant", because I consider the loss of inocent life, especially easily avoidable loss, a tragedy. One that os not aligned witj our self proclaimed democratic values. But apparently, ranting is all I can do, since all EU governments seem to be OK with the status quo...

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Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by EatingWithForks on Thursday June 22, 2023 @05:33PM (#36439342)

I think being trapped on an overcrowded ship, bodies pressed into you, as the ship capsizes, is also viscerally terrifying. You don't know where you are. You don't know who is around you. You have nothing except what you could've carried. You are trying to leave a downed ship with hundreds of pressing bodies. The waters are rising. There's too much froth to see where you're going.

Everyone is screaming, death is all around you. People are drowning, and in their drowning flailing limbs they are pulling others to their deaths.

[Edited to add: The migrants would've had time to process what was happening to them. There would be many long minutes of terror, suffocation, as they died. Hundreds. Women, children.]

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Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by sho_hn on Thursday June 22, 2023 @06:10PM (#36439809)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_MV_Sewol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_A8dq2fA5o

A friend of mine was involved with computer forensics on recovered cellphones on this one. Just awful.

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Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by WastingMyTime89 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @06:13PM (#36439851)

I agree with you but I also realise it’s very hard to imagine what a proper tempest on the sea feels like if you are never experienced it on a ship. It’s an experience which is so far removed from a modern person traditional experience - a sunny summer day at the beach - that they just can’t grasp it.

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