I know I'm just one voice, but a podcast I listened to moved behind the Spotify platform, and I just stopped listening to it. I was already bought-in to that platform. I use Spotify premium for music. But only for music. I don't want my recommendations filling up with podcasts, I want my music platform to be my music platform. I use my podcast app for podcasts. It's better at it. And no amount of exclusives is going to change that when there is an endless ocean of interesting podcasts that can fill each my interest niches easily available on my podcast app.