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Re:Red Hat cutting back RHEL source availability by pabs3 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @09:25AM (#36431808)
Please note that "Tivoisation" isn't what Tivo actually did and both the GPLv2 and GPLv3 ban "Tivoisation" but allow what Tivo actually did. "Tivoisation" as it is popularly known refers to blocking the running of modified GPL code, while what Tivo actually did was block running their proprietary software (their UI etc) on top of modified GPL code (here Linux). Both GPL versions block the former while allowing the latter. At least according to Software Freedom Conservancy.

https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/mar/25/install-gplv2/ https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/jul/23/tivoization-and-t... https://events19.linuxfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017...

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Re:Red Hat cutting back RHEL source availability by schoen on Thursday June 22, 2023 @05:50PM (#36439558)
That's interesting, I remember thinking that the original notion of Tivoization did apply to what Tivo did (including what you describe).

I wonder if this is a point of disagreement between FSF and SFC -- I know they now have several disagreements.

In a similar time frame, I criticized attestation features in trusted computing because they would allow (in fact one of their main purposes was to allow) network services to allow only certain software configurations to interact with them. And I thought I was talking about a similar concept!

Thanks for sharing those links.

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Re:Red Hat cutting back RHEL source availability by pabs3 on Friday June 23, 2023 @02:58AM (#36443703)
You may be thinking of SFLC, their disagreements with FSF are much larger. SFC's disagreements with FSF are mostly related to keeping RMS around.

Attestation is indeed a big problem today, especially around Android devices and proprietary apps that won't run on libre Android distributions. The attestation feature of WebAuthn could also become a problem, but that is somewhat mitigated by the Apple passkeys not being attestable.

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