No offense to your original statement, what you said makes sense--the link was mislabeled in a common way.

I just want to point to this comment and its children as the reason that HN should have comment thread collapsing.

There's no reason the majority of people checking the comments for this link should have to see the language debate. It's not relevant to the Tower framework. The only reason this debate is so high up is because people chose to upvote the original comment.