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Re:Rivian Joins Forces with Tesla, Embracing Their Charging ... by pnpnp on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @08:28PM (#36412737)
Not that you’re wrong about self driving, but they have been light years ahead of the competition in other areas. I don’t think it’s fair to say that have “missed some deadlines” and generalize to this, when they’ve been a major contributor to bringing electric vehicles to the masses.
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Re:Rivian Joins Forces with Tesla, Embracing Their Charging ... by recursive on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @08:41PM (#36412833)
> I don’t think it’s fair to say that have “missed some deadlines” and generalize to this, when they’ve been a major contributor to bringing electric vehicles to the masses.

It's absolutely fair. These are separate statements, and they're both true. Tesla has missed "some" (only some?) deadlines. And they've also brought EVs to the public. It's completely fair to say these because they're true.

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Re:Rivian Joins Forces with Tesla, Embracing Their Charging ... by nameistaken on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @11:19PM (#36413971)
I see your comment, and I hear you but listen man...

Elon bad.

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Re:Rivian Joins Forces with Tesla, Embracing Their Charging ... by BluePen7 on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @03:43PM (#36423358)
As a Tesla owner I agree they've accomplished a lot, but they've also promised us the world, by yesterday.

Until something is delivered, and bug-free, I don't really believe anything they say. They've done a lot, but their word is next to worthless.

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Re:Rivian Joins Forces with Tesla, Embracing Their Charging ... by pnpnp on Thursday June 22, 2023 @11:07AM (#36433294)
I totally agree. I don't think there would be a push for NACS from other automakers if it isn't better, royalty free, and completely open.

I have Starlink as well - over promised, and under delivered _but_ it currently still has no competition in my area.

The difference is that Tesla now has competition, but they did still have some good ideas. If NACS really is open and free, I don't see the big deal.

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