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Re:Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepa... by medellin on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @06:50PM (#36411824)
This is what happens when you take the move fast and break things culture to anything where people die when things break. Really just sad and so stupid.
Re:Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepa... by IceHegel on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @07:33PM (#36412254)
It’s sad of course, but the early days of flight were also quite dangerous but they lead to rapid innovation and the stable industry of today.

It’s a tragedy, but high risk activities are by definition going to have a few.

Re:Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepa... by CryptoBanker on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @07:54PM (#36412434)
Unfortunately with flights you can usually at least take a good guess at what went wrong. I think we’ll be lucky if they find (and retrieve) wreckage in this case
Re:Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepa... by ramesh31 on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @08:05PM (#36412527)
>It’s sad of course, but the early days of flight were also quite dangerous but they lead to rapid innovation and the stable industry of today.

And if you tried to take paid passengers on a homebuilt uncertified aircraft today you would go to jail. This isn't the early days. The challenger deep was reached over 60 years ago. We've been building submarines longer than airplanes. We know how to do this stuff safely. This was negligence.

Re:Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepa... by TaylorAlexander on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @08:34PM (#36412781)
Sure but at that time no one knew how to fly. Today we absolutely know how to build and test decent submersibles and there’s really no excuse for building a machine as untested as this one.
Re:Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepa... by tjmc on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @09:17PM (#36413124)
There's calculated risk and reckless risk. Sounds like this was the latter unfortunately.
Re:Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepa... by class3shock on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @10:04PM (#36413466)
But risk can be mitigated with proper engineering, testing, and manufacturing process control. These are all quite well understood just seemingly not well implemented by this company.
Re:Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepa... by ekianjo on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @08:21PM (#36412666)
> This is what happens when you take the move fast and break things culture

Or then you take things slow and you end up like NASA who has not launched any new rocket in years. Is that better?

Re:Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepa... by autoexecdotbat on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @08:33PM (#36412772)
I think there's a happy medium, and civilian tourism probably isn't really the place to be pushing the safety envelope.

Science, discovery, boldly going where no one has gone before? Absolutely safety is going to be somewhat compromised. Taking rich people to the gawk at the Titanic? I, personally, think you're a bit of dick for MacGyvering a vessel together and calling it good enough.

Re:Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepa... by liamwire on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @08:30PM (#36412751)
In regards to human life, unambiguously yes.
Re:Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepa... by ekianjo on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @06:24AM (#36416724)
The nasa is also supposed to actually launch stuff you know
Re:Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepa... by ChristianGeek on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @09:22PM (#36413168)
They haven’t killed anyone in years, either.
Re:Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepa... by ekianjo on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @06:23AM (#36416717)
Zero output guarantees that
Re:Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepa... by neuronerdgirl on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @10:12PM (#36413533)
... yes?
Re:Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepa... by ekianjo on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @06:23AM (#36416714)
You cant have space exploration without people dying.
Re:Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepa... by ssnistfajen on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @12:25AM (#36414377)
Do you know what happened to Apollo 1?