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Re:Goodbye, Twilio by VirusNewbie on Sunday June 18, 2023 @07:18PM (#36385539)
Stock price increase benefits workers quite a bit though.
Re:Goodbye, Twilio by ethbr0 on Sunday June 18, 2023 @07:52PM (#36385734)
Assuming workers own stock.
Re:Goodbye, Twilio by VirusNewbie on Sunday June 18, 2023 @09:09PM (#36386162)
We are talking about Twilio specifically.
Re:Goodbye, Twilio by kelnos on Monday June 19, 2023 @03:42AM (#36388370)
Which they do. Twilio's equity comp was fairly generous, at least for a time, and I believe all employees had equity as some percentage of their compensation. In addition, Twilio offered an ESPP that all employees could take advantage of.

(Full disclosure: former Twilio employee and current Twilio stockholder.)

Re:Goodbye, Twilio by makeitdouble on Sunday June 18, 2023 @07:54PM (#36385746)
Stock holder =/= worker
Re:Goodbye, Twilio by triceratops on Sunday June 18, 2023 @11:37PM (#36387042)
Most Twilio workers are paid at least partly in stock.
Re:Goodbye, Twilio by tick_tock_tick on Monday June 19, 2023 @12:33AM (#36387364)
Maybe sometimes that's true but at Twilio all employee's are stock holders.
Re:Goodbye, Twilio by makeitdouble on Monday June 19, 2023 @01:21AM (#36387571)
Thanks !

I didn't know, and apparently yes, Twillio employees get RSU at entry as a standard perk. Now, those are still just RSU.

I couldn't get an exact number but if they are in line with most other companies, the stock raising while hypothetically the employee compensation goes down the drain would still a net negative for employees.

Re:Goodbye, Twilio by friendzis on Monday June 19, 2023 @02:25AM (#36387909)
No, just no. Capital extraction, be it dividend payout or stock buybacks, benefit existing stockholders, by definition. Stock buybacks, however, as opposed to dividend payout, in a free-ish market increase stock price, which prevents those with less free capital from being stockholders in the first place, which, under capitalist system, are the workers.

Stock buybacks benefit those with previously free capital while at the same time hurting those without free capital currently. In a capitalist system this does hurt workers quite a bit.

Re:Goodbye, Twilio by jezzamon on Monday June 19, 2023 @11:25AM (#36392135)
Am I missing something in your argument?

Are you saying the price of an individual stock is what's pricing people out? Having trouble reconciling that with the fact that only a few stocks are above $1000 (which doesn't seem to hard to reach if you want any substantial savings), and then stock splits and fractional shares happen often.

Or are you just saying that they will own a smaller percent of the total stock, so they have less say as stockholders?