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Re:GPT4 Can’t Ace MIT by courseofaction on Saturday June 17, 2023 @08:13PM (#36376080)
I've gone from working with 500-1k lines of code at a time in GPT-4, to not bothering beyond one or two small functions because it gets confused so easily now.

Seems they're enshittifying already, I hope a competitive model is released soon.

Re:GPT4 Can’t Ace MIT by refulgentis on Saturday June 17, 2023 @08:26PM (#36376142)
The model didn't change.
Re:GPT4 Can’t Ace MIT by VeninVidiaVicii on Saturday June 17, 2023 @09:22PM (#36376426)
Supposedly. But I have the same experience. I used it to create code to design a complicated CRISPR experiment, but lately it can’t keep anything straight.
Re:GPT4 Can’t Ace MIT by refulgentis on Saturday June 17, 2023 @09:29PM (#36376468)
That should lead you to be less confident that it changed, not more
Re:GPT4 Can’t Ace MIT by pillefitz on Sunday June 18, 2023 @01:15AM (#36377533)
How so? Seems counterintuitive
Re:GPT4 Can’t Ace MIT by refulgentis on Sunday June 18, 2023 @05:13PM (#36384545)
I’d expect it based on the absurdity of the difference - it’s a master programmer and now it can’t do anything! - combined with self-knowledge that 0 attempts were made to make an objective comparison.

If my Tesla went 80 mph and started going 15, we wouldn’t attribute that to the-nature-of-Teslas, or a software update: there are vast incentives for anyone who knew that was done to share that publicly.

Instead, we know something is wrong with the individual car and we take it to the dealer.

Here, the missing part is objectivity via a speedometer: I have one, I know outputs are consistent on 0315 models at 0 temperature.

Re:GPT4 Can’t Ace MIT by raincole on Saturday June 17, 2023 @09:47PM (#36376560)
How do you know?

Oh, let me guess... because OpenAI told you so. OpenAI, the one istitution with the most strong incentives to tell people the model is not getting worse.

Re:GPT4 Can’t Ace MIT by refulgentis on Saturday June 17, 2023 @10:21PM (#36376742)
Or I foresaw this and kept a collection of temperature 0.0 gpt 3.5's around.

People are incredibly silly, myself included, you get old enough and see an _insane_ influx of new people, you figure pretty much exactly this is going to happen. 95% of people don't know what temperature is. Of the 5% remaining, 4.9% think its something you just tell ChatGPT to adjust.

Re:GPT4 Can’t Ace MIT by mensetmanusman on Sunday June 18, 2023 @09:09AM (#36379971)
If you spend less compute power on the same model, the answers can degrade.

It makes total sense that they would throttle due to the incredible global demand. They can't build super computers fast enough now.