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Re:I don't need your query language by Olreich on Saturday June 17, 2023 @07:34AM (#36369304)
`3w` is a command all its own. There’s an implicit move command baked in. Moving gets pretty clunky if you don’t have first order movement (adding a specifier or something to clear selection). You can mimic this by mapping a single button to <C-v> and disabling all movement commands in normal mode. It’s rough, but may be learnable.

I think something that might work better is adding a “commit” signal to operations. So you type `d3w` and the editor highlights the next three words with a strike through or red or whatnot. Then you can hit enter to commit the delete or escape to cancel it (cursor resets to start position, highlight goes away).

Re:I don't need your query language by wryanzimmerman on Saturday June 17, 2023 @08:04AM (#36369499)
If you use visual mode, you can do `v3w` to highlight three words, and then you can manipulate that selection before you do something with it, like `d` for delete.

You can also use that with ex commands, like if you do `vap:s/foo/bar/g` you will replace `foo` with `bar` only within the block of code you visually highlighted with `ap` (which I remember as “a paragraph).

So if you want “delete three words”, do `d3w`. If you want “highlight three words” do `v3w` and then issue another command like `d` to do something with what you highlighted.

Re:I don't need your query language by PhilipRoman on Saturday June 17, 2023 @08:07AM (#36369520)
I think these two concepts could be reconciled by having selection be combined with moving. So 3w could select three words but also move the cursor to the end of selection, ready to process another normal mode command. The highlighting would need to be scaled back a little (perhaps a dark gray background), as you don't want your entire screen to light up when moving but I think it's doable.
Re:I don't need your query language by SaidinWoT on Saturday June 17, 2023 @09:17AM (#36369935)
That's exactly the model used by the Kakoune editor[0]. It definitely feels more intuitive to me, but I personally didn't stick with it due to vim's ubiquity.

[0] https://kakoune.org

Re:I don't need your query language by Kamq on Saturday June 17, 2023 @11:44AM (#36371202)
> So 3w could select three words but also move the cursor to the end of selection

I mean, if you hit v first, that's exactly what it does.

Re:I don't need your query language by PhilipRoman on Saturday June 17, 2023 @03:14PM (#36373510)
Yes, but in terms of editing speed and comfort, one keystroke is the difference between life and death. As long as the motion can be described in a single command, visual mode is overkill.
Re:I don't need your query language by Kamq on Sunday June 18, 2023 @03:55AM (#36378189)
Wouldn't what you're proposing complicate the rest of normal mode though?

Or is this just reversing the order so it's {motion}{verb} instead of {verb}{motion}?