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Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by saxonww on Friday June 16, 2023 @03:24PM (#36362419)
I wonder about this.

First, it seems like you could just make the phone part waterproof and if they dunk it, they have to replace the battery. I have ruined a phone by putting it through the wash, and I would have been very happy to just replace the battery instead of chucking the phone.

Beyond that, I wonder what the reality is for waterproofing needs. Are people taking smartphones diving? IP65 means it's resistant to 'spray' - like rain, not a firehose - and it seems like a battery compartment with a tight-fitting cover would be more than enough for this. IP68 doesn't apparently mandate a depth rating but recent iPhones are tested to 6 meters for 30 minutes. That's more water pressure than 99% of those iPhones are ever going to see.

I don't personally think the non-replaceable battery has anything to do with IP rating, it's because manufacturers want soft-sided batteries with more delicate terminal connections, for volume/capacity reasons.

Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by prmoustache on Friday June 16, 2023 @03:34PM (#36362563)
Most waterproof norms are only valid for freshwater. Most usb/lightning ports rust after being subjected to salted water and you end up not being able to charge your device anymore.
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by brookst on Friday June 16, 2023 @03:45PM (#36362727)
Really? I've taken many an iPhone snorkling in the ocean, just in zipped pocket, and they have all been fine.
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by aembleton on Friday June 16, 2023 @06:25PM (#36364783)
That's really impressive. I destroyed a Sony phone a few years ago just going for a short swim in the sea.
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by tempestn on Friday June 16, 2023 @08:00PM (#36365623)
This can be largely mitigated by rinsing/soaking the device in fresh water to dissolve the salt.