Re:Prison chess clubs helping rehabilitate inmates
by joshuacc on Friday June 16, 2023 @10:40AM
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Interestingly, in the US, slavery is explicitly permitted by the Constitution as a punishment for crimes. (Though whether prison labor should count as "slavery" or as a different form of "involuntary servitude" is an interesting semantic question.)
"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
Re:Prison chess clubs helping rehabilitate inmates
by masklinn on Friday June 16, 2023 @10:21AM
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To be fair the US already do a slavery, prison labour is a thing.
Re:Prison chess clubs helping rehabilitate inmates
by i_am_jl on Friday June 16, 2023 @11:59AM
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To be clear, that's exactly what I mean. Every perverse incentive that nudges for-profit prisons towards manufacturing prisoners is magnified by turning individual prisoners into revenue streams.
Re:Prison chess clubs helping rehabilitate inmates
by di456 on Friday June 16, 2023 @10:50AM
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It's a US constitution problem. Slavery of prisoners is still legal.
There's a film on it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_(film)
Re:Prison chess clubs helping rehabilitate inmates
by robertlagrant on Friday June 16, 2023 @11:07AM
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This is less of a gotcha in the context of locking people in boxes, which we also normally don't do.
Re:Prison chess clubs helping rehabilitate inmates
by i_am_jl on Sunday June 18, 2023 @11:11AM
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Locking people in a box is incarceration. Locking people in a box and compelling them to perform labor from which the incarcerator profits is slavery.
The fact that imprisoning people costs a lot of money is one of the few things keeping the U.S. prison population in check. That's not a problem that needs solving.
EDIT: Allowing prisons to profit from the labor of prisoners creates a perverse incentive for the companies running prisons to keep prisons full. Maybe it works in places where prisons aren't run for profit.