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Re:Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely by EatingWithForks on Thursday June 15, 2023 @02:01PM (#36344294)
I think you're making the mistake that just because people on the forum have the skills, knowledge, and general capacity to learn a new tool that they are convinced to put in the effort to learn the new tool. Social media specifically has thrived on a culture of extreme low effort to learn how to start having fun with it (think TikTok showing you cool videos, then an easy prompt to sign up, then an immediate "for you" page before you ever need to engage with the TikTok community like commenting, liking, following, etc).

The fediverse (and decentralized social media in general) breaks the mold of extreme ease of use and therefore subverts the cultural expectations, thereby violating one of the ways a user would establish if the application is "good", and thereby it looks "bad".

It's like, technically X algorithm is a superior algo to use. But I can import Algo Joe's library that's 50 years old and already integrated into every language I know, so I'll do Joe.Sort().

Re:Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely by jtode on Thursday June 15, 2023 @02:35PM (#36344738)
Perhaps low-effort users are part of the problems we're experiencing? I think maybe it's time to dial back the user-friendliness just a weeeny bit.

Anyways, I see zero evidence that Reddit will come back from this conflagration in any sort of good shape, and I see even less evidence that the VC business model is going to do any better with anything else.

Re:Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely by EatingWithForks on Thursday June 15, 2023 @03:11PM (#36345140)
I actually don't disagree with your point. I'm merely explaining why fediverse-style platforms always get the complaint it sucks because it's harder to use than the centralized alternative, even among a community that should be used to such platforms.
Re:Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely by joemi on Thursday June 15, 2023 @05:55PM (#36347153)
You seem to be assuming that everyone who doesn't want to jump through hoops at signup is a low-quality user. This seems like a very flawed (or pretentious?) view. "Low-quality users" are a subset of "users who don't want to jump through hoops at signup", but the subset is small in comparison to the superset.
Re:Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely by calf on Thursday June 15, 2023 @08:46PM (#36349311)
My university professors are low effort users. Some of them are even CS adjacent.

Selective low effort is what those professors exhibit. But their ideas are valuable and worth publicizing.

Twitter is an example of many low-effort scientists writing some good content.

Re:Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely by jtode on Friday June 16, 2023 @07:22AM (#36354729)
Well, this one got a lot of response heat, I'm picking you to respond to.

Twitter is also the current textbook example of the problem with low-effort platforms that are controlled by capital. Like, do I even need to explain this to anyone? Are there still any Musk fanboys in the room who think he's playing 4d chess?

But while Twitter circles the drain and the world scrambles to figure out what to use instead, and Mastodon steps up as a competitor which cannot be seized and ruined by capital, ever, Reddit stands firm as the one true platform that got it right! Everyone gazes in awe at the one last hope for the capitalist internet, which seems to be doing just fine.

And Reddit looked over at Twitter, and then Reddit looked down like Rorschach, and said... "Hold my Over 8000 beers..."

Re:Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely by kaba0 on Friday June 16, 2023 @04:01AM (#36353048)
You can’t just categorize people into being low-effort. Motivation is continuously changing, it is absolutely possible that someone will post an absolutely fascinating comment once they find that great unique context.

Also, reddit’s value is exactly that you have very different demographics on each subreddit, and “hearing the voice” of people is the whole point.

Re:Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely by zozbot234 on Thursday June 15, 2023 @02:24PM (#36344582)
> The fediverse (and decentralized social media in general) breaks the mold of extreme ease of use

The fediverse is in its early days. Nobody would argue that Reddit.com was "easy to use" in 2007.

As a matter of fact, there's already a Lemmy/Fediverse UX that works just the same as an old-school forum/BB; the whole federation facet is exposed as an extra feature on top of that: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmyBB We know that UX works, because it was quite popular even among novice users.