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Re:Consciousness and Anaesthesia by matt-attack on Thursday June 15, 2023 @05:27AM (#36338136)
Exactly. To those who think free will is real, what exactly are you claiming is true about a particular set of atoms (shaped like a human)? Are they atoms not doing what they should do? How can a box of atoms control themselves? What does that even mean? Is physics being defied when the atoms are arranged into the shape of a brain?

Free will is literally a non sensible concept and is plainly just a subjective illusion.

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Re:Consciousness and Anaesthesia by omniglottal on Thursday June 15, 2023 @11:01AM (#36341487)
1. Humans evaluate, determine, and select which causal effects to attempt/apply, among the selections in their known agency. 2. The world, given its complexity and chaos, is non-deterministic.

Humans determine their actions (will) where fate (determinism) isn't prescriptive of their course. Humans don't have a monopoly on will, but we do have our own. If you've ever survived, it's because you chose to eat. Eventually, even decisions like these which you may feel are implicit are also subject to be reversed if we want to and will.

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Re:Consciousness and Anaesthesia by flangola7 on Friday June 16, 2023 @12:49AM (#36351434)
> 1. Humans evaluate, determine, and select which causal effects to attempt/apply, among the selections in their known agency.

Explain this process in the framework of physics and thermodynamics. Specifically, what differentiates this free will process from mere causal process?

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