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Re:First People Sickened by Covid-19 Were Chinese Scientists... by nidhalbt on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @04:23PM (#36332051)
There's a problem, covid was in Italy as early as September 2019. (see Dr John Campbell's video on this) Cases in November 2019 aren't early, it started probably six months earlier.
Re:First People Sickened by Covid-19 Were Chinese Scientists... by dwater on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @04:32PM (#36332184)
"John Lorimer Campbell is an English YouTuber and retired nurse educator known for his videos about the COVID-19 pandemic. Initially, the videos received praise, but they later veered into misinformation. He has been criticised for suggesting COVID-19 deaths have been over-counted, repeating false claims about the use of ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment, and providing misleading commentary about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines.

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He holds a diploma in nursing from the University of London, a BSc in biology from the Open University, an MSc in health science from the University of Lancaster, and a Ph.D. in nursing from the University of Bolton. He received the Ph.D. for his work on developing methods of teaching via digital media such as online videos."

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber)

For anyone wondering who this is and if he is a reliable source.

Re:First People Sickened by Covid-19 Were Chinese Scientists... by xdavidliu on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @04:37PM (#36332263)
agreed that that is absolutely not a legit source. I was curious so I googled, and found something more legit-sounding:

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-italy-tim...

> ROME (Reuters) - The new coronavirus was circulating in Italy in September 2019, a study by the National Cancer Institute (INT) of the Italian city of Milan shows, signaling that it might have spread beyond China earlier than thought.

Re:First People Sickened by Covid-19 Were Chinese Scientists... by ifyoubuildit on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @06:51PM (#36333948)
Sounds like a guy with some pretty relevant credentials. Accusations of misinformation are a dime a dozen, and probably made oddly enough by people with fewer relevant credentials.
Re:First People Sickened by Covid-19 Were Chinese Scientists... by andrewinardeer on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @04:27PM (#36332116)
I was at Madrid airport in June 2019 and waiting in the long line for border control to leave there was a man who was displaying extreme flu-like symptoms. Coughing, sweating, pale as a ghost. Mind you, this is the height of summer. Even back then, prior to the pandemic, I actively avoided him because he looked really unwell.

I know there is no way of knowing and at best it is a fanciful mental exercise, but I think to myself 'what if'?

Re:First People Sickened by Covid-19 Were Chinese Scientists... by tap-snap-or-nap on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @06:39PM (#36333818)
Tricks Dr John Campbell uses to spread DISINFORMATION on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqQC0tTECvQ