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Re:Apollo’s Christian Selig explains his fight with Reddit –... by neilv on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @01:22PM (#36313513)
Thanks, the audio clip helps. Selig's initial voice and language signals sounded all over the place (maybe he was nervous, or was speaking very off-the-cuff when broaching an acquisition), but I agree that his correction starting around 2m17s sounds sincere.

Devil's advocate still: the perception of a shakedown isn't necessarily dependent on mishearing something literally as "go quietly". What reason does Reddit have to pay $10M, rather than pay $0? Reddit leadership might even feel like it's a shakedown from their perspective, whether or not that's the intention or perception from some app developers.

Personally, were I involved, I would indeed be mentally tracking everyone's perspectives and honesty, since that matters a lot (e.g., a mutually better deal might be reached when you understand each other; or you might get a contract, but they might not honor it in good faith, or will screw you at renewal time).

But I think Internet pitchforks would do well to keep memetic talking points to the unambiguous (e.g., the proposed API licensing fees, the short time horizon, a party's claims of how that will affect them), and avoid paths that seem more like (ahem) "We did it, Reddit!" loose cannon character assassination.

Re:Apollo’s Christian Selig explains his fight with Reddit –... by davidgerard on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @02:16PM (#36314416)
Reddit's already been caught lying, there's no justification to construct an alternate reality in which this was all a silly mistake rather than something they chose to do.