Why not tell people to “simply” use pyenv, poetry or anaconda

Re:Why not tell people to “simply” use pyenv, poetry or anac... by logicchains on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @07:39AM (#36308713)

>In Python at least you "only" have to figure out venv, pip and conda and you're mostly set. In C/C++ world adding a dependency is such a pain that most projects have less than five dependencies. Most of the time it's simpler to just quickly write and debug a worse version yourself than to figure out how to find and integrate a library.

That's from the developer's perspective, not the user's. The user of a C++ project doesn't have to care about any of that; they just run the binary, or ./configure && make to build from source. The user of a Python project has to struggle through worst case days of pain depending on how many dependencies are randomly broken.

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Re:Why not tell people to “simply” use pyenv, poetry or anac... by wongarsu on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @07:43AM (#36308764)

If your user is interacting with the package ecosystem, you already failed multiple steps. Which python projects are routinely doing, but that's a cultural issue about packaging.

For "users" that have to touch the code: well, those get the full developer's perspective. And I've lost more hours than I would like to admit trying to get C++ projects to build. A project has to be really small or packaged really well to make it as simple as ./configure && make

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