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Re:Desktop Linux Hardening by JohnFen on Monday June 12, 2023 @03:47PM (#36299857)
And Wayland doesn't support being able to have multiple logons, each with their own independent desktop, simultaneously like X does.

I just like to bring that up even though it's not a common use case, because that's what keeps me from using Wayland.

Re:Desktop Linux Hardening by t0astbread on Monday June 12, 2023 @04:16PM (#36300346)
Interesting. Do you know why? I've only ever tried launching nested instances of Sway (the compositor I use) which each use their own sockets and render as a client to the parent compositor and that worked fine. Does it have something to do with rendering to a real display?
Re:Desktop Linux Hardening by JohnFen on Monday June 12, 2023 @04:54PM (#36300949)
I remember this being brought up early in Wayland development. The stance was taken that it wasn't a popular enough use case to be worth putting work into. I don't think there's any real technical reason why it couldn't be done, but I don't know. I'm not familiar with the architecture of Wayland.
Re:Desktop Linux Hardening by bandrami on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @12:55AM (#36305548)
I think seatd allows this now? So it works on the rather small sliver of distros that don't run systemd.
Re:Desktop Linux Hardening by glandium on Monday June 12, 2023 @10:14PM (#36304270)
> And Wayland doesn't support being able to have multiple logons, each with their own independent desktop, simultaneously like X does.

Not sure what you're referring to. I'm using wayland and I can open multiple desktops via gdm.

Re:Desktop Linux Hardening by bandrami on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @01:07AM (#36305671)
I think he means multiple simultaneous seats, and IIRC this is a limitation of systemd-logind, not wayland itself (it works on seatd, though that makes you manage your own XDG_RUNTIME_DIR, so I guess pick your poison).
Re:Desktop Linux Hardening by glandium on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @04:19AM (#36307201)
multiple seats of the same user?
Re:Desktop Linux Hardening by bandrami on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @05:12AM (#36307595)
Sure, if you're willing to multiplex your own XDG_RUNTIME_DIR. Hence "pick your poison".